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to think she shouldn't have moved the goal posts at the last minute

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whoneedssleepanyway · 22/07/2013 07:17

My aunt has a holiday cottage which she very kindly rented to us last summer at a nominal charge, it has never been a rental business to her it has been for family use. This year she decided to refurbish the cottage and spent a great deal of money on it. We discussed the possibility of our family using it again and she offered us the same 2 weeks and said that actually she and her OH would come down and spend the last few days there with us. She never said she intended to turn it into a rental business and the indication was she continued to keep it mainly for use of her family and occasionally extended family like ourselves.

We are now due go on holiday this week and I saw her at the weekend and I asked her to let me know how much I would owe her for cleaning, laundry and covering running costs, she told me that they have decided family should pay 50% of the rental value for the property, she said she felt very awkward as obviously we were using it at the peak time so was very expensive so perhaps she would charge us a bit less, but that we should have a think about what we would pay her and let her know.

I know she is being very generous letting us use her cottage, she is totally within her rights to expect payment for this and even 50% of the rental value is very reasonable but the cottage would rent for £1,750 a week in the school holidays and she has essentially told us this 3 days before our holiday, so 50% of the two weeks is £1,750 not exactly the kind of cash you have floating around and in any event if we had know we were going to have to pay this we would probably have rethought what we did as a holiday. In the end I agreed a 60% discount and will pay her in two chunks but feel really awkward and embarrassed about the whole thing.

AIBU to think that she should have told us this at the outset when we discussed using the cottage, not 3 days before our holiday and she should set out a clear price and not tell us to come up with a price ourselves.

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ITCouldBeWorse · 22/07/2013 07:20

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JamieandtheMagicTorch · 22/07/2013 07:20

I agree with you.

She should not have sprung this on you at such short notice.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 22/07/2013 07:22

Oh that's bad. Of course she should have let you know, and then you could have said sorry, we can't do it, we'll skip having a holiday this year, and she'd have been able to rent it out to other people. Three days before the holiday means that if you back out she's got an empty cottage, so you kind of can't.

YANBU at ALL.

maternitart · 22/07/2013 07:23

YANBU, she has put you in a very difficult position.

Of course it is her right to charge whoever and whatevet she wants but the way she has gone about this is dreadful. I would have offered the same as you paid before plus maybe £200 on top.

This is the risk you take with informal arrangements unfortunately...

maternitart · 22/07/2013 07:25

is she actually renting it out now (to non-family)?

hazelnutlatte · 22/07/2013 07:26

Yes she should have told you! You sound very reasonable about it though and I don't think there is anything you can do about it at this point. Hope you enjoy your holiday. That sounds like a huge amount for a holiday cottage though, I've just booked one for next July (tour de France week in Yorkshire so peak peak time) for £550. I'm sure your aunts cottage is lovely but she doesn't seem to realise you could have had a holiday for much less

Jan49 · 22/07/2013 07:33

I think she's put you in a very unfair position. Does she actually intend to rent it out in the future or is she doing so already? To me it sounds like she's planning to do so in the future and has come up with the figure of family paying 50%. I don't think she should suddenly have sprung it on you, but you also ought to have sorted out a definite cost with her in advance. I think you would have been perfectly right to have paid her a lot less this time, a figure similar to last year. TBH it sounds like she is just using you to get back some of the money she's spent refurbishing it.

cozietoesie · 22/07/2013 07:38

I would have refused to pay that, declined the offer and quickly sought a last minute deal elsewhere. That's a thumping great amount for 2 weeks (even at a heavily discounted rate) especially considering you still have to pay for food, travel and so on. She's left you in an impossible position.

I appreciate that you can't do much at this stage though. Have a good time but be sure to let her know that you won't be taking the cottage up again because it's simply too expensive.

Sparkletastic · 22/07/2013 07:39

YANBU and your aunt is BVU. I'd call her bluff and say you may have to cancel due to her unexpected decision to charge you so much. Agree she is exploiting your rather more extended family status to recover some of her refurb costs. Her proposal for her and OH to come a spend a few days with you undermines her strictly business approach though. Have you got hearts set on going there? Is it worth seeing if you can get a cheaper last minute holiday deal?!

TimeofChange · 22/07/2013 07:41

YADNBU.

Where does she think you can conjure up that money from at the last minute?
She has probably been embarassed about asking so has put it off, which has made it worse.

So you are paying £1500 for the two weeks?

Look for a last minute reduced rental.
They do exist! But I suppose you would still be paying around £1500.

You could buy a tent and go camping!

I don't like holiday cottages that are smartly refurbished as I'm always worried about every little accidental mark showing up.

My friend damaged an antique dining table by putting the hot baking dish on a table mat on the table.
The heat went through the mat.

whoneedssleepanyway · 22/07/2013 07:47

ITCouldbeWorse I know I might sound a bit entitled but honestly we don't take the cottage for granted, she is the one who has always said you must take the girls there etc etc, and I was so grateful to her last year.

Maternitart that is exactly what I was planning to do, pay for all our costs and then give her something extra on top, or my cousin had suggested buying something for the cottage.

Hazelnuttelatte that is exactly how I feel, we could have had something else much cheaper, we really aren't bothered about luxury we just want to be by the beach, last year before the refurb it was v dilapidated but that didn't bother us the location is great and we were out and about most of the time.

Maybe I should have called her bluff as do feel that she over-spent and is basically trying to claw some back however she can. It does seem like they have changed their minds and are planning to make money out of the cottage now as she has put it on a rental agents website which I hadn't realised.

We will have a great time anyway. Thanks for your opinions.

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CaptainSweatPants · 22/07/2013 07:47

Well enjoy it this year & next year book something cheaper

TimeofChange · 22/07/2013 07:47

She is being very cheeky, as she would have had to to a really good advertising job or put it in the hands of an agency, who would take a commission.
She has no guarantees that it would have got bookings the first year.

I'm getting cross on your behalf.

whoneedssleepanyway · 22/07/2013 07:49

Timeofchange £1,250 was agreed in the end.

I know what you mean I am going to be worrying about the DDs touching anything!

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cozietoesie · 22/07/2013 07:58

TimeofChange

Yes - she's being extremely cheeky and I think she's got a real education coming about renting out something expensive and discovering how much it actually costs what with tax, agents' fees, refurbishment, insurance, damage, cleaning etc etc......

AKissIsNotAContract · 22/07/2013 08:01

Book a last minute deal somewhere else.

attheendoftheday · 22/07/2013 08:05

Wow, she's being VU! I'd be tempted to say you can't afford it at look at other options for your holiday.

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