To use the term 'sufferers' in relation to depressed people?

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Is it ethical?
I have changed the words individuals with depression, depressed people etc to sufferers of depression. Mainly so the clever plagiarism programme my uni use won't pick it up!
AIBU?

YABU if you are copying someone else's writing without attribution and just changing a few words.

Often people with diseases or disabilities do not like the term "sufferers".

YABU people do not suffer from disability, nor are they a disability they are a person first.

I am soured stones and I happen to have fibromyalgia

I am not soured stones who suffers from nor is soured stones the mumsnetter with fibromyalgia. It's not who or what I am it's an aside.

Does that make things clearer?

What she said

Plus if you are plagiarising you are scum. HTH.

There's always one.

Whats the point of going to uni if you aren't going to do the work?

Maybe someone else on your course will do the same thing - won't need a computer programme to spot 2 similar essays!

There always one.

Course you are not scum. You are just an average student.

YANBU to say sufferers IMO

Is it ethical that you've plagiarised or ethical to call people with depression sufferers? Both wrong!

I completely agree with Souredstones, well put and very clear!

Its not like I copied 4,000 words just one paragraph that sums up what I wanted to say and when I tried to say it myself I realised it sounds identical to what was already said.
With DD admitted to hospital a few days ago and the deadline only days away, my sleep deprived brain is struggling to string a sentence together let alone a concluding paragraph.
Scum? Seriously? I envy your idyllic lifestyle, I hope you never meet real scum and get real perspective on its use.

An average student?

Er, no. Average students don't plagiarise.

No, it's not ethical. It's plagiarism. Hope your uni spot it, and penalise you heavily. If it were me, you'd be getting an automatic fail, with no opportunity for a resubmission. And even if your assignment makes it through the software programme designed to pick up plagiarism, the examiners can frequently tell when a paragraph in an essay is suspiciously well-written.

Scum is a bit strong, but "average student"? This country's fucked if if everyone gets by by cheating.

sorry you are under pressure, probably easier to rewrite than spending all this time trying to shoehorn this in,

With DD admitted to hospital a few days ago and the deadline only days away, my sleep deprived brain is struggling to string a sentence together let alone a concluding paragraph.

If this is true, you should contact your course convenor and arrange an extension. Hope your DD recovers soon. It does NOT, however, justify plagiarism.

Not scum, just lazy. And thanks to the internet, it is possible to submit the work of others as your own.
Are you already on extension for this? Most terms have ended at uni.

Thankyou goodtouch someone with common sense, I wasn't asking for a lecture on plagiarism just whether 'sufferers' was appropriate.

below average student would be more accurate.

'Sufferers' isn't appropriate.

I have depression. I find 'sufferers' patronising.

Say 'people who live with depression' instead.

:)

Ah the traditional AIBU, pick out the one poster that agrees with me. You can't seriously have thought that if you hinted in you OP that you were about to plagarise someone else's work that no one would pick you up on it.

And YABU to use sufferers for all the reasons SouredStones gave.

YANBU to say sufferers. I (and DD1, sadly) have depression. I suffer with it. I think 'sufferers of depression' fits rather well with general life for most people I know with depression, including me.

Thankyou goodtouch someone with common sense, I wasn't asking for a lecture on plagiarism just whether 'sufferers' was appropriate.

Plagiarism is not common sense. Plagiarism is unethical, unfair, and cheating. It's also stupid.

I guess all the conclusions will sound similar anyway. Any one who has used the plaigirism software will know how scarey it is. I didn't actually say I had plaigirised anything. I am just aware that every conclusion I have read seems to similar and I don't want to give the software any extra percentages. So I used the term 'sufferer' to be on the safe side but the more I read it the more I keep thinking I want to swap it back to MY original use of individual.

If your uni uses 'turn it in' then your essay will be flagged.

Use the paragraph and reference it or change it completely and make it your own.

You will never please everyone. Sometimes it's appropriate to use the word 'suffer' because sometimes without it, depression becomes something that 'isn't all that bad'. Sometimes it's highly inappropriate, people want to be acknowledged as people, people separate to their own individual sufferings. I think this is why the use of buzz words is lazy and dangerous.

I suffer with a twisted spine, and I DO suffer, but that's not the whole picture of me and I would hate to be described as a sufferer all the time, although I do wish for it to be acknowledged that I DO suffer, and I'm not simply using it as an excuse! There is a balance.

By the way, academics are more well read than you, so never plagiarise, you'll look stupid and could put your whole course at risk. Some bright spark at our Uni basically copied her brother's dissertation from 5 years ago at another Uni... we put it through 'turnitin' and knew within minutes. She was kicked off the course. Not worth it.

Even if you don't copy the paragraph word for word, if you got your main idea from another source, you should still cite it.

Students seem to think it detracts from the strength of their argument to cite other sources; the opposite is the case.

Your conclusion should also be your words, you reflecting on the rest of your essay.

Intro: describe what you're going to say
Bulk: Say it.
Conclusion: Draw the strings together and say what you've just said.

There should be no need to copy others.

Op you poor thing, it sounds like you've been through it this week. Could you see if someone else could reword it for you? Also, if you've had a rough week I would enquire about an extension as well.