To find disagreeable children harder work than....

[Peachyjustpeachy]

'naughty' children?

Children who misbehave generally do one or two deeds that you can easily deal with, but disagreeable kids are just a pain?

Eh?

Isn't the definition of disagreeable "someone that I don't get on with"?

So you're saying "is it unreasonable to find it hard to get on with children who I don't get on with?"

Depends what you call naughty really, lots of things people write on here about their DC being naughty i don't think of as naughty.

Disagreeable is unpleasant in all people.

Ha! I didn't think ofit like that!

Maybe I need to work on my people skills!

Disagreeable is'nt just someone you disagree with, it's someone who is unpleasant and bad tempered.
But most people and children do have at least some redeeming features.

I think you're trying to describe my DD!!

She is argumentative, contrary and ALWAYS has to have the last word. Sh'es just turned 5, and it is tough. I'm just hoping she grows out of it soon

Don't hold your breath Imnotaslimjin, I've been waiting for my disgareeale child to grow out of it for many years.

I totally agree with you Peachy, it grinds you down day after day. Ime people who don't have a child like this find it difficult to understand what it's like.

I totally agree. My DD2 is a very naughty, in your face child BUT she is charming and smiley. She is hard work but worth it. I would rather have her than a child who is well behaved but sullen.

it's the whinging kids and adults I can't stick. mischievous is ok but whining and moaning just yeuk.

I suppose there are degrees of naughty. Mischievous, loveable rogues can be quite entertaining in the short term! Depends what they are getting up to.

My 5 year old DD is fiery, independent, contrary, ballsy, charming, stubborn, and spirited. She is hard work, and not just for me. However, she's fucking brilliant!

I'd like her to bit easier only for her sake, but it's not happening. It's her character, it's ingrained and I'm sure many find her hard to deal with but soon can't resist her blonde hair, blue eyes, and dimples.

I like children with a bit of spirit, but it's draining

Ok for clarification....a conversation went like this:
Shall we go in the garden to play?
No I don't want to go into the garden I want to play here
Ok (sits down onthe floor) oh why are you crying
Cos I wanna play outsiiiiiiiiiiidde

Oh, a CONTRARY child.
Got one o' them. Sympathies. Sigh.

that's just being a toddler though, PeachyJP ?
My kids are 'hard work' - from getting up to going to bed.
They are 12, 7 and 6 - the middle child is much more emotionally tuned and easy to negotiate with - my DD ( 12) and youngest DS2 ( 6) are very whingy moaners who just don't have a switch as to when to shut up.

They are all essentially good kids - and great personalities - BUT I would almost rather them be a tad 'naughty' from time to time rather than the headache from getting up to going to bed that is just relentless. They are never happy

Gettnig up is a problem
Choosing breakfast is a problem
Eating breakfast is a problem
repeat to fade - constant battle

Ok try this......
Do you want to go in the garden?
No
Do you want to stay inside?
No
Well that's all there is, inside or outside
No

Ok let's play with the trainset.
No I want to play with the sand.
Ok but keep it clean not the tray
Flings sand everywhere
I said please don't throw sand you could have hit someone orgot it in your eyes
Child picks up sand and rubs it into another childs face.
I have asked you not to do that
I can do it. Thumps other child

Is that normal behaviour? Cos I don't think so. I can't tolerate the hurting of other children, especially when it's to be deliberately disagreeable. Everything I say or doshe does tbe opposite !

Fairly normal i'd say except for the rubbing sand in another childs face which is nasty.

I suppose to me disagreeable is more about an unpleasant demeanor than actual meanness, someone you just don't like.

How old is the child?

Ok rubbing sand would be a we are going home offence, no second chances or I asked you not to's.

Ask open ended qs, that do not engender yes or no answers.

its more...

its hot today
no it isnt
this icecream is nice
no it isnt
that was funny/clever/etc
no it wasnt.

Honestly, i could say black and she will say white.

Yup, definitely describing my DD!! She had a tantrum this morning because she was too hungry to eat her breakfast

Everything sounded normal.toddler behaviour except the rubbing sand in the other Childs face and then thumping them. I would try to ignore the difficult behaviour but would be furious about aggressive behaviour and take my child straight home.

Everyone saying "normal toddler behaviour" is that just a polite way of saying that toddlers are a PITA?

Thing is...I've had 18 kids and this one is the only one who has behaved like that...So how is that normal???

My DS disagrees with everything. He is 5 and always right, as are all my friends 5 year olds.

When I say something and he immediately goes the opposite I just say "oh yes DS you are quite right, yes it is and you know everything (in an over the top positive voice). He then changes it and agrees with what I said. Seems to work every time!

trills toddlers are a pita. Have you not had one?

Oh and if you told them not to throw sand and they did it, it would be going straight away. You told them the rules, they weren't followed, activity gone, no discussion.

I would agree that the rubbing sand and thumping isn't entirely 'normal'. How old is the child?

3

I do have one of my own but when you gold/asked her to do something she did.

Not this one though....