to hate the term "baby mother" and want to throw things when I hear it?

[JakeBullet]

FGS, what IS that term and where did it come from? Jeremy Kyle has just used it (okay so I am BVVVU watching JK but need something to distract me from the mind numbing boredom of housework).

But "Baby mother"? WTAF is it all about?

AIBU to bloody well hate it?

Or am I just an old fashioned and ancient crone?

"I remember James Cordon using it in reference to his girlfriend in an acceptance speech a while ago. Tosser"

I took that as a joke, she was in the audience and laughed.

He has, on many occasions said how in love they are and how he cannot believe that she is with him.

You can have a child with someone, that you never had, or will have any relationship with, so it is a short way of describing "the other Parent of my child".

I hate it.

babymammy, babydaddy. I think it sounds ridiculous.

I wonder if it is because it is an - this isn't the right word but I can't think of the right one - affectation.

it has not developed naturally, it hasn't come from a natural evolution of language in this country so it sounds fake and frankly stupid (to the ears of someone from this country and not from or having the ancestry of a country where it evolved naturally).

It doesn't make you sound 'cool', or 'gangster' or whatever it is you're going for. It makes you sound silly.

But I think that is true of all words that have been spliced into the language because people are trying to emulate a pop star/rap star/film star/other culture they are not part of but which they aspire to be seen as from / whatever rather than words that have evolved naturally and over time.

It's the same reason wanky management speak is so ridiculous. It isn't natural. It's forced into the language and it doesn't sit right.

Baby Mother is the term used about a woman who has carried a mans child without ever having been in a relationship with him.

It is often used in certain cultures whereby some men have fathered many children but have no relationship with the mums.

So, they cant say ex girlfriend, or ex wife, but refer to these women as my baby mama, or my baby mother, as opposed to saying "the woman I slept with who became pregnant and I now have a child with".

It is a term used mostly among young people of certain socio economic groups.

If anything should make you mad, it is not the term, but a society where a lot of kids have grown up without proper rolemodels, and what happens when these people seek out love, and end up with baby mamas and baby daddys as a substitute for something they never had in the first place.

That makes for very sad reading, Quint.

Very thought provoking.

It's quite a useful term really. Plenty people have children with people that they are not and never have been in a relationship with

I think that sums it up really.

I had a Caribbean upbringing and it certainly wasn't in common use then.

I think it's a ghastly phrase with misogynistic undertones.

you know, tbh, I think I wouldn't hate it so much if there was an s in it.

Baby' S daddy. Baby' S mummy/mamma.

Does that make me one of those horrible pedants?

since there may be apostrophe misuse in there, probably not.