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Ok it happened a while ago but I can't get it out of my head AIBU?

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CrapBag · 02/07/2013 21:28

This is about someone who up until very recently was considered my best friend, I'll try and keep as short as possible.

The thing that is particularly sticking in my mind is a comment that she made to me about my DC. Our DCs had started an activity together a couple of years ago and to me they all seemed the same ability wise with it. Then there was a period where none of them were progressing and we looked into it. Through that and other circumstances they ended up doing it separately. Within 2 weeks my DC had really excelled and is continuing to do well. Friends DC has not progressed at all and is at the same point that they were a year ago. At one point my DC said they may have wanted to do it more seriously in the future. I was telling my friend this (who has a real 'thing' about the fact that my DC has progressed where hers hasn't) who then said "well if X (my DC) had a natural ability they would have shown it by now" (we are talking about a just turned 5 year old btw).

I am known for being outspoken but when it comes to actual confrontation I say absolutely nothing because I can't bear it to the point where I shake, heart pounds and I can't get my words out. So I said nothing when she said this. I have been dwelling on it for a while. I KNOW she would not have put up with a comment like this from me, nor would I have said it in the first place.

Recently she was talking to me on a rare occasion that I actually saw her and mid conversation she said "I have a bone to pick with you" then had a go at me about outings that I been on with friends where she said she hadn't been invited. I told her that she had but she hadn't replied to the organiser, a mutual friend. She was adamant. Then she bothered to check her phone where she saw that I was right, she had been invited, then came out with her usual 'oh I'm so incredibly busy I don't have 30 seconds to send a text' excuses. She is a very busy person but isn't everyone. Again I said nothing. There was no hint of an apology from her.

I invited her to something that we were all doing recently and she was the only 1 not to reply. I assumed she wasn't coming. She phoned me half an hour before to confirm details. I said I didn't think she was coming as I hadn't had a reply, she was adamant she had replied. I checked my phone and there was no reply, so she blamed the network, all other texts from friends came through to me no problem.

She makes snippy comments if she isn't invited to something but she isn't really as good friends with the group any more, she has more broken off with her own group but still expects to be invited to everything but she doesn't invite any of us with her friends. We don't care but she seems to be making an issue of it every time. She has even told me on more than 1 occasion that she doesn't care if she ever saw the group I am friends with again and doesn't really have anything in common with them (they don't know she has said this), so I am at a loss as to why she cares, but she seems to care a lot about being left out.

She has also made a few comments to me that has made me Hmm about others, about being thick etc. Another good friend of mine has also told me of a couple of things she has said to her before, like "aren't you a bit young to be having all these kids?" when she had 2 at the age of 25 and was discussing the possibility of another in the future and she told her that she didn't know what busy was when they were talking about stuff they had been up to. The (ex?) best friend tells everyone about all the things she is doing but doesn't seem interested in others. She asked the friend above what she has been up to after prattling on about herself and when my friend was replying, she just walked off! This friend has never said much to me about her before as we were close but it is apparent that she doesn't like her and I don't blame her.

I am getting fed up but this friend is coming to the end of her training soon and is going to available to get together. I feel like I am suppose to be suddenly excited, I am not.

Am I overreacting to petty stuff? I feel I am but would like some outside perspective. This friend has been willing to lend me money before which shows she does think a lot of me but recently, I don't know, I feel she is changing since doing her course and I am not sure I have time for her anymore. There are a couple of events coming up in the next few weeks where she is going to be there. I am not going to be able to avoid her.

Sorry for the length and I appreciate any answers. Smile

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Shutupanddrive · 02/07/2013 21:31

She sounds like hard work, I don't think YABU. I would either have it out with her or just cut her off to be honest

ZillionChocolate · 02/07/2013 21:42

Instead of silently sulking about things, if she says something rude, why not challenge her on it immediately? What's done is one, but you don't need to be badly treated.

CrapBag · 02/07/2013 22:02

Because I can't. It sounds odd to anyone that knows me. When I told my friends about her 'having a bone to pick with me' they said "what did CrapBag say" and when they found out I said nothing they couldn't believe it as that isn't like me.

I actually shake if I have to deal with 'proper' confrontation, and to me this is confrontation. If I don't want to do something, I can say no, no problem, if I need to pull someone up on something that is bothering me, never going to happen.

Yes I know I am a wimp. Blush

Although I have a feeling something soon is going to come out as we have all been out recently to something that she wasn't invited so I am anticipating her saying something to me again, even though it isn't me arranging things and not up to me who is included.

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HorryIsUpduffed · 02/07/2013 22:05

Sounds like she's buying your loyalty. Sounds like she is unhappy and insecure.

Salmotrutta · 02/07/2013 22:10

Why exactly are you even friends with this person?

She sounds rather awful.

Tell her to do one! Grin.

In a diplomatic way of course Wink.

For example when she says she wasn't invited to this thing say,
"Oh, did X not send you an invite?" (surprised face)
Then - "I wonder why??"
Then - ""What on earth have you said to her??" (Tinkly laugh)

sweetsummerlove · 02/07/2013 22:11

From your description of this girl Im going to say this.

Offering to lend you money is not a sign of respect or thinking highly of you, She is quite clearly someone who likes to be 'above'. e.g. wanting to be invited and included but far too busy to make any reasonable effort to maintain a friendship or even restrain herself from being a rude cow to others.

cut.her.loose.

SoftlySoftly · 02/07/2013 22:16

I feel exhausted just reading that. Friendships aren't supposed to be that hard I'd stay polite but not involved
With her no active contact.

LunaticFringe · 02/07/2013 22:16

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CrapBag · 02/07/2013 22:21

"She's moved on to a new set of friends but doesn't want you lot to have fun without her."

This is it exactly. I don't get it. She has categorically said she doesn't care if she ever saw 'my' set of friends again. I am going to have to remind her if this if she says something again.

I guess I am wondering if I am overreacting because she has been a very good friend in the past. I could tell her anything and she really understands stuff and is very good with advice. This was before she got even busier so never has time for anything anymore.

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LunaticFringe · 02/07/2013 22:38

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CrapBag · 02/07/2013 22:44

Yeah that's a good point. She generally gets in touch when she has some spare time and I am suppose to jump because I have a lot more free time. I am booking up my next couple of weeks anyway so I won't really be available. I have a ready made excuse. Grin

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oreocookiez · 02/07/2013 23:43

Sounds difficult for you. What do you get from being friends with her? is she supportive? kind? she sounds an odd person and perhaps someone who is jealous and very me me me.

Let her go and enjoy spending time with your children and the nice mums you know

CrapBag · 03/07/2013 17:38

Just seen the dreaded FB. Quite a pointed post about how fabulous her friends are (and they're tagged) and how they are the best a person could ask for, with hints to how they have got her through and helped her with vodka and a hint about something going on tonight. I have never once been invited along. Not sure how supportive I am suppose to be when I don't know what's going on. But I guess its ok for her to throw hissy fit when she either isn't invited or has been and forgotten.

She's making this just a little bit easier now.

oreo she has been very supportive in the past but the last time we met up, she knew I was kind of struggling yet again with depression, but I haven't heard from her since about that, all because she is just too busy. I don't get her pointed FB post about how supportive her other friends have been if she doesn't tell me or invite me along in the first place. If I see her and it does come up, I think she has pushed me to the point where I am so pissed off I won't be able to help myself and say something. Unfortunately I am not the most diplomatic of people.

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CrapBag · 03/07/2013 17:51

I know her well. Last weekend a group of us did something to which she wasn't invited, something for a friends DDs birthday and it was on FB about how we had a good time. Friend would have seen this and definitely taken offence. Plus she never does status's in the first place and she certainly never tags people in them. I know it is deliberate. Pus the additional hint about something going on tonight. She just doesn't do this normally and it is a response to her not being invited at the weekend (the friend who organised it is the one mentioned in the OP who doesn't really like my (ex?) best friend so you can't blame her for not inviting her anyway.

There are also responses from her friends who apparently never go on FB and we have been waiting for their response to an invitation and have been waiting for over a month. I am going to assume they aren't coming.

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CrapBag · 03/07/2013 20:30

More of the same, messages from friends who never pop up all saying how tonight is going to be great etc etc.

She has really pissed me off now! The amount of snidely little comments I have had to hear from her about her not being invited (to things that were never 'mine' to invite anyway or to things that she had been but didn't come or didn't reply) but obviously its ok for her to do it. I know its deliberate as she was originally going out Friday and told me to pencil it in ages ago. She has changed it without telling me and without inviting me. She won't have forgotten that she invited me. Its deliberate. Guess she is showing more of her true colours, that and her other friends who all swore blind I was part of their friendship group before. Oh well, I know which friendship group I prefer anyway not the boring snobs group Wink

I hope she doesn't turn up to the things coming up that we have invited her to (yep she seems to have conveniently forgotten that). She has pissed me off to the point I can't hold it in now.

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oreocookiez · 03/07/2013 22:49

I really hate FB for that reason! have never had it and never want it!

CrapBag · 13/07/2013 21:59

I agree Oreo. In fact I recently deleted my account and people forgot to invite me to stuff as they generally do a facebook event and just add people from their friends list. My friends moaned at me to go back on so I did with just my closest friends on there and that's it.

Unfortunately I can't delete friend in OP because she will know its very pointed towards her and I can't avoid her. There are a couple in the group who are still including her and she is coming along. I am not going to be able to cut her out which is what I was hoping in the long term tbh. I saw her last week and it was awkward and uncomfortable. I can tell she is pissed off at me but I am at a loss as to why.

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AgentZigzag · 14/07/2013 00:23

She's definitely playing games, and it made me wonder whether she does all the begging to be invited but not replying to measure/test how much you think of her.

Forcing the issue that she should be centre of attention is because she needs reassurance that people like her/everything's OK.

And when you don't say anything it backs up the idea that she's right to be acting like this.

What does it matter if you're emotional when you pull her up on it? Not doing it probably makes it worse because you've built it up so much.

Get a few phrases rehearsed that you can remember when you're stressed, and get the fuckers out of your mouth! Grin

'Please don't talk to me like that, I don't like it'

'I'd rather you didn't say that about X please, she's my friend'

'Look, just fuck off...please'

Grin
AgentZigzag · 14/07/2013 00:25

'I can tell she is pissed off at me but I am at a loss as to why'

Because she's messing you about, it doesn't matter why because it's her and not you.

You haven't done anything, she's just making you feel as though you have.

Don't play the game, you can choose to sit out without having to justifying yourself.

SelectAUserName · 14/07/2013 04:50

Oh dear, it's all starting to sound a bit high school, isn't it?

If you can't "do" confrontation then you're either going to have to suck it up or manage it as best you can.

If her FB pettiness is bothering you but you're too scared to defriend her, hide her posts, and/or create a Friends list which doesn't include her so she doesn't see what you're posting.

If she kicks off about not being invited to stuff, I'd prepare a comment along the lines of "look, we have this conversation every time and it always turns out that you have been invited but haven't read your texts or whatever. Are you seeing a pattern here?" said with a smile but firmly enough that she knows you've seen through her bullshit.

If that's too close to confrontation for you then unless you're the one arranging the activity, if she starts complaining I'd just say vaguely "oh, X is sorting it, speak to her, I've had nothing to do with it" and change the subject.

You can't change her. All you can change is your reaction to her. So that means either letting things like FB silliness wash over you and taking the good (if there is any left) out of the friendship, OR gradually trying to detach and let it slide and hope the others in the group do the same, OR finding the courage from somewhere to call her on her bs/have it out with her when she annoys you. Only you can decide what works for you.

CrapBag · 25/07/2013 20:12

Didn't realise I had more replies, sorry. Smile

Well, she is still being weird, more than ever. Last weekend we all went out, at one point I was upset about something else and she was hugging me (although I was wishing she wouldn't as it felt hypocritical of me), she also did get me on my own and asked if I was ok for her to talk to me and I said "no I'm not in the mood" then this week we went to something with friends that she was invited to, I said hello after she went and sat away from me and she blanked me completely, then she came over and talked to the 2 friends I was sat with and very pointedly asked them if they were going to X's house the next day but ignored me (pointed as in "are you 2 going to X tomorrow"). Then she was civil and talking to me the next day. Pissed off with this playground shit. If she does decide to have it out with me then I will find that backbone and tell her a few things. She needs to bloody grow up. I'm an adult and I thought I left this behind at school!

'Look, just fuck off...please'

Yep I am liking that. Grin Just hard when she keeps being invited, I'm not the only one in the group who doesn't want her there anymore, but others are feeling obliged at the moment because she's around more because her friends are working and she's off.

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