To think that the older retired generation have it too cushy ...

[suebfg]

Nice holidays, large houses now worth £££, good pensions etc. (I know I am generalising her)e.

And the young/middle aged people can't rely on an inheritance as the elderly people may have to sell their homes to pay for care. Yet the elderly people did get an inheritance and are enjoying it on their holiday spending sprees.

[suebfg]

Clearly, yes

[yamsareyammy]

Akiss. She used ths subject heading "older retired generation".

Which is roughly 65 to 110 years old.

[scottishmummy]

It's greedy and graspy to expect to be left an inheritance
And it's immature to whine it's not fair that pil sped their own money as they wish
So it no inheritance,no holidays for your family member.tough,thems is the breaks

[Mintyy]

Yabu. Younger generations have no concept of how spartan life was for the vast majority of people over retirement age now.

No central heating, no daily baths, no home phone, no supermarkets, no holidays abroad, no Primark, no ready meals, no takeaways, no gadgets (obv), no disposable nappies, no domestic appliances beyond a twin tub.

If retired people are slightly more comfortable now then fair play to them.

Although, they should def. give up the winter fuel allowance if they are well off.

[suebfg]

My family member in difficulty will probably die before the parents - inheritance isn't an issue. I would have thought they might want to help out. But then my parents are different - thank goodness.

[BrianTheMole]

My parents didn't have it easy. They grew up in the war and lived hand to mouth for years. Not many people of their age round here bought, they all rented. And university absolutely wasn't an option. And receive an inheritance? No one had anything to leave, any savings their parents had went on there funerals. I don't begrudge them, or others like them, a single thing.

[WhereYouLeftIt]

Ooh, where to start ... (YABVU, by the way).

Inheritance : WTF? Outside the pages of an Agatha Christie book, inheritance is completely unknown to me. No-one in my family ever had anything to leave besides their personal effects (clothes & furniture). Rely on inheritance? Why? I work for a living, FFS.

Large houses : My retired parents are in a two bedroom council flat, in a multi-storey. My grandparents were similar. One grandmother, widowed, confessed she'd love a bedsit - 'so much less work to clean'. Very happy when the council moved her to a one-bedroom flat.

Good pensions : Anyone retired now worked through the 70s and 80s, probably got made redundant at least once so have a couple of smaller pension pots and broken service, or had their pensions destroyed by thieving bastards like Robert Maxwell or had their company take a pension holiday for a few years. A favoured/lucky few may have escaped that.

ANd how do you think things were for the current retirees when they were young or middle-aged? Fucking hard, that's how. Women paid less than men and able to be fired for getting married/pregnant. Higher education for 5%, not 50%. Lower technology, so most people's jobs were manual/in factories/low-paid. Childcare next to non-existent, except from family. Holidays a long car journey to a B&B in Blackpool, in a good year. Laundry once a week in the communal laundrette (nobody had a washing machine). Telephone was a party line, once you got to the top of the queue and a number became available (yes, really).

Yes, you ARE fucking generalising. Massively. You have a very bad case of envy going on OP, and you really don't know what you are talking about.

[pigletmania]

Yabvvu why shouldent people who worked hard njoy the fruits of their labour in the later years

[suebfg]

Get a life

[suebfg]

"Yes, you ARE fucking generalising. Massively. You have a very bad case of envy going on OP, and you really don't know what you are talking about."

Yawn, read the thread. You don't know what you are talking about.

[scottishmummy]

Its Greedy,and graspy to sit and expect an inheritance

[suebfg]

I'm not sitting and expecting an inheritance thanks

[Monty27]

Suebfg I haven't read all of the thread, some of it.

You need educating. The pensioners of which you speak, came through the war, learned how to save, respect everything they made and earned and didn't squander it. Good luck to them. Long may they live to enjoy it. What do you want? A gas chamber?

[suebfg]

The baby boomers didn't come though a war.

I'm very well educated thanks

[AKissIsNotAContract]

Akiss. She used ths subject heading "older retired generation". Which is roughly 65 to 110 years old

Oh right, in that case I don't agree with the OP. It's the baby boomers who've screwed us, not the generation before them.

[suebfg]

I was referring to baby boomers

[Didactylos]

you are falling for it - divide and rule
scapegoat a group and set us all against each other

Don't you think we (speaking rhetorically for my 25-35 yr old 'generation debt' age group) have more to set us in common with most baby boomers and pensioners than to set us apart?

we are, both groups watching the current government and financial system enrich the very richest and privatise our public services while for the average person we are all seeing our standards of living change, food, housing and utility prices increase, greater family pressures as structures of support are taken away, loss of jobs, zero hours and part time work only available, ATOS and the Workfare program, spare room tax, less support available for those who are carers, who have disabled children of any age, for those who have physical and mental health problems

I am reserving my ire not for some pensioner who fulfilled their part of what was then the social contract and is now being rewarded for this, but for the millionaires and buffoons in the cabinet (and the opposition) who swanned into parliament on a background of daddys money, private education, a braying self confidence and 1 weeks work in Selfridges, folding towels. Or just quietly lied on their CVs.

These are the people who are disconnected from the reality of life for most of us, these are the people passing regressive changes to the welfare state which target the most who are vulnerable, turning a blind eye to huge corporate tax dodging, sticking their hands in the till, enriching themselves and their friends, planning sell offs of any industry or resources not already handed over to millionaires and offshore companies who still need huge state subsidies and more taxpayer monies to give us a poorer service for more upfront costs, carrying out massive top down restructuring of public services that was not clear in their election manifestos, stopping funding for valuable local and small scale services and then expecting them to continue solely through volunteerism (then taking 3 million plus to find out its not really tenable)

Their sheer contempt for us as the electorate and people of this country is astounding and the big problem is as in this thread we often do their dirty work for them - believe their lies, look on each other with suspicion oh, hes a skiver, shes a welfare scrounger, I don't believe you are disabled.... Baby boomers are taking up too many resources.... everyone is out for all they can get so I might as well do it too....

This is a rant from someone in a very bad mood and I know the next thing someone is going to post is 'Well, what are you going to do about it/whats your alternative/theres no magic money tree you know

A more tempered post with some solutions may follow
Alternatively, you could all vote and put me in charge. Ill sort it out, Im dead gallus

[charlottehere]

Agree

[Mintyy]

So its your way or the high way is it sue?

Well I'm afraid you are simply coming across as a massive !"£$%^&.

Hopefully other posters will read the whole thread and realise it is not worth engaging with you.

[yamsareyammy]

I think the op has had enough now.
op, perhaps you might want to ask for the thread to be pulled?
I dont know if MNHQ will do it or not.
And they may not do it until tomorrow mid morning.

[suebfg]

No, I just think there are some really quite personal comments on here. People can make a point without being personal about it. So I am ill educated, greedy, and all manner of things???

[lemonybarcode]

YANBU

[AKissIsNotAContract]

I wonder if anyone has actually read the book that was linked to earlier. It supports the OPs assertions and is very well written and researched.

[scottishmummy]

Your cross as you think your pil should leave inheritance to the family concerned
I have read your thread and you think your family member is entitled to inheritance
You think pil should moderate spending,that is greedy and graspy attitude