to not understand appeal of Caitlin Moran writing for The Times?

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She always has at least a couple of articles in The Times on Saturday, including her TV reviews, and seems to be heavily promoted there at the moment.

But I often find her writing cringeworthy e.g. this Saturday TV reviewing The White Queen headlines "She Makes Ingrid Bergman look like Someone Stuck Tits on a Turnip". Last Saturday, reviewing exactly the same programme (did anyone at The Times notice ?) the review headlined Battles, Castles and Tons of Fruity Historical Humping. Is she just being crass/offensive for the sake of it? And I find so much of her writing self-adulating plus impossible to make any sense of, a jumble of thoughtless sentences stuck together ... almost like a teenager on speed.

It seems a shame when The Times on Saturday has some enjoyable journalism e.g. the often brilliant Janice Turner, Matthew Paris, Giles Coran, plus some great review stuff of the Arts.

My heart just sinks when I see her bylines and picture. AIBU ?

twitchy I'm sure is paid well in the scheme of things. But I'd be very suprised if just one column a week would be enough.

I found that extract amusing.

Just goes to show that it's mostly about whether how she writes is to yur taste or not.

I think she takes the same approach to TV reviewing as Giles Coren does to restaurant reviewing. The sim is not to help you to decide if you want to watch that TV show (or go to that restaurant). The aim is to write something that is entertaining to read, with the vague theme being "what I watched on telly last week" (or "a restaurant that I went to this week").

Yes at that level the pay is very good. I have a friend too doing this and she is also single parent and no shortage of holidays cars eating out houses etc.

I'd say about a grand per column.

So I'd doubt she could keep a family of four on one column a week!

My friend not as well known and no books etc and she earns way more than that. I think MN has a warped view of the salaries of creative jobs Theybare always well underestimated. I work in creative industry and it is a career that is often mocked on MN but it is not badly paid at all

Columns, books, tv appearances, other related articles, it all adds up, her husband is a journo too ( I think). I read somewhere this week that the obviously in need of an intervention Jiz Moans gets paid £1 a word, now, that nearly knocked me for six.

More than a grand per column?

twitchy I'm certain CM does very well financially.

But that's in part becuase she's prolific. My point was simply that she will have to do more than her one gig a week to make a decent living.

As for her husband, I believe he works part time in the music industry. CM is the main breadwinner.

I agree Noddy.
A grand per column!!!
Lol!

Off topic but I read this weekend Lizzy Jones is paid £1 per word

So pretty much in line with the "about a grand a column" mentioned above then?

Yup.

And if a column is about 1000 words, thats...a grand a column.

Yes indeed Trills.

Would love to know who these hacks are who earn soooo much more than LJ ...

I could bepulling this out if my posterior, but I'm sure I read she was on a seriously large sum annually from the Times alone. She is one of their "star columnists" so I doubt the pay scales for normal journos apply.

Yes, the Lena Dunham arselicking was very sad. Basically, "I don't want to ask her any hard questions because she's my fwend".

yes because all columnists are paid exactly the same and have the same output...

Yes gosh, the annual fee. Hikes it up somewhat.

I lasted 33 seconds with that link marmalade

I have 25,000 words (sadly academic research, unpaid) to write... £££ if a £1 a word! Now THAT would be motivating

Marmalade

That VT....Oh dear fucking hell God. Please tell me that is ironic....Wearing make up all the time is a mental illness according to the eminent psychiatrist Salli Hughes.

Bourjois eye pencil? shouldn't it be 'Bourgeois' eye liner in the spirit of the whole conversation...
LJ apparently gets paid £1 a word according to a vile interview by Lynn Barber published this weekend.

I know a couple who do. If you work for a major paper you don't solely write your column and contribute nothing else. My friend I knw for a fact earns much more than that so the LJ estimate must be way out.

Gosh that is right she would not be paid the same as other columnists. My friend is well known in her field it's not as popular as CM more serious but she is still the face of the topic iygwim. If she only earned 1k per week she would not be living the life she is in london.

I
Always
Liked her.

She is funny.

Ahh,I knew I heard it from somewhere.

CM is on a £250k contact according to: www.standard.co.uk/news/journalists-in-twitter-spat-following-news-of-the-world-closure-6420206.html

RE Gosh's Link about CM's 'jpkes'-

Sick of people who make nasty comments that are then rationalised as 'jokes'. CM and her little gang of mean girls are prime exponents of this. Be braver and own it.

many, not all, have high paying contracts