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Aibu to be pissed off at C4 re domestic violence?

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Scarletohello · 18/06/2013 20:09

I can't believe what I've just seen on Channel 4. In the same week that we all saw the photos of Nigella Lawson with her husband's hands around her throat, I've just seen a man complaining about the " domestic violence industry", and how the courts are trying to criminalise things that are just normal behaviour in a relationship. He ended by saying that he had recently become a Christian and said that if Jesus was alive today he'd be campaigning with him to end this situation. WTAF??

Felt so incredulous about what I was watching. Just one more example of male privilege and entitlement. Apparently people can go and debate this stuff on Www.4thought.tv. Depressed the hell out of me so just wanted to vent a bit and hope I can encourage others to do the same....

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ParadiseChick · 18/06/2013 20:12

Have you had a look at what they are saying on the 4 thought site? I thought these snippets were meant to be controversial and provoke debate. I never seen this specific one.

SingingSilver · 18/06/2013 20:39

The newly 'saved' tend to be a bunch of egotistical twats (in my opinion.) I'd like to play him at his own game and tell him that Jesus wants me to tie wife beaters to the bumper of my car and take them for a spin down the A34...

I went to college with a girl who stole cars with her boyfriend, they'd ride round in them for a bit, have sex in the car then abandon it. She was a born again, as was her bf, and she loved talking about how we'd all be left to burn when they ascended to heaven. I thought that was rather unfair as I'd never even had an overdue library book!

MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 18/06/2013 20:55

Eww. That sounds horrible. Even if it is to 'provoke debate', I think it just makes people think these ideas are somehow normal.

There is a thing someone mentioned recently, about 'Christian domestic discipline'. Sad It's religiously-sanctioned (and I use 'religious' in the loosest possible terms, btw) abuse.

BringOn2014 · 18/06/2013 21:07

I have to say, I was reading when this was on the tv so I just kind of heard half of it but I thought he was talking about raising awareness for abused men and saying there needs to be more equality in the way abuse is treated as in women are more generally portrayed as the victim in media when it comes to DV.
I heard the bit about Jesus and he was definitely saying then that jesus would be campaigning with him to raise awareness for abused men!
Might be ha

BringOn2014 · 18/06/2013 21:08

Oops posted that too soon.

Might be I have to rewatch it though Hmm

RiotsNotDiets · 18/06/2013 21:13

He was whining saying that it wasn't fair on the men who intimidate and verbally abuse their partners (which he felt was a completely normal part of a relationship) that this sort of behaviour is now classed as domestic violence. Hmm

Pathetic little MRA worm

HairyWorm · 18/06/2013 21:18

Arrrgghh! I saw it too. DV affects both genders but (if I recall correctly) about 2 women die every week in the UK at the hands of a current or previous partner. I would be surprised if it was the same figure if reversed.

He had a previous partner who was mentally abusive which must be very hard to get over but why turn it into a gender issue. Surely one of the reasons men in abusive relationships don't speak out or aren't taken seriously is due to outdated, sexist gender roles which is equally damaging to men and women.

HairyWorm · 18/06/2013 21:22

Riots OMG I forgot he said that. I'd assumed I'd misunderstood him, but he did say that didn't he!
But his partner belittling him was in his eyes 'abuse'.

BringOn2014 · 18/06/2013 21:29

I have to say having watched it again online Im not sure where I stand with it.
On the one hand he is talking about how he suffered emotional/psychological abuse and thinks this kind of abuse can be worse than physical abuse.
He did say sth about it being a normal part of a relationship and I dont think he put his point across well at all but what I got from it was him saying 'this will be another thing men are vilified for' and more that the courts need to be more equal in accepting men as victims too.
Im prepared to be told Ive got it completely wrong and let me repeat again before someone jumps down my neck, I do not think this guy put across his point well, the 'normal part of a relationship' bit was weird but didnt fit with the rest of his speech. ie. Getting EA himself and at the end canpaigning for equal rights for male victims.

SingingSilver · 18/06/2013 21:42

I haven't seen it, but he sounds like a hypocrite. He wants men to be free to emotionally abuse their wives/partners without fear of punishment, but he wants men to be able to report their wives for the same?

FreudiansSlipper · 18/06/2013 22:02

I watched it so he was emotionally abused which of course is wrong and the damage does last. I get tired of comparing the two which is worse you do not have physical abuse without emotional abuse it's a step further some prefer not to go that far but still do terrible damage ea needs to be recognised how damaging it can me

It's really a moan how it is not fair for men. There is nothing stopping men setting up support groups etc like women have done what is stopping them. How many men serve pathetic sentences for terrible violence against there partners

Then I watched the Erin feminists are evil Prezzey clip. Her argument is that EA should not be a dv issues as she knows men's groups who now fear getting into relationships as a normal argument with their partner will result in them getting arrested and it's a feminist agenda against men (ok she did not quite say that but close)

What I never understand about this woman is her claim that women are just as violent and she found this out from the women that came to her refudge. But why do women leave. When they leave they have to leave everything when they fear their partner so much that to not go is a risk to their life and there is always a perpetrator why would they leave in fear Hmm

FreudiansSlipper · 18/06/2013 22:04

Refuge...

not a refudge whatever that is

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