To think the gp should have listened and not just dismissed me as PFB (even if I am being)

[emeraldgirl1]

Fwiw these are my 14wo DD's symptoms, for the past week.

Screaming in pain for up to an hour at a time either halfway through a feed or an hour or so later
Explosive and very pongy farts!
Huge painful burps
Explosive and very pongy nappies, very messy indeed even if not necessarily actual diarrhoea (apart from the astonishing explosion of real and very very nasty diarrhoea at the w/e that kick started all this...)
Redness and puffiness above the eyes a bit like hives, usually appearing during a feed.

I took her to the gp today and had barely got through the first sentence (desceibibg the painful wind) when the gp stopped me to ask if this is my first baby. When I said yes she half smiled and said it is colic.

I said DD is three months and hasn't had colic before, I started to ask if it was a reaction to the diarrhoea last weekend when she stopped me again and said she would show me a tip for how to wind her properly.

I was v grateful and listened etc and then I started to say but she has these very bad nappies and terrible farting (which burping her won't help with obv) and she kind of sighed and said, 'babies don't come with a manual, you have to reliae that you can't control everything any more!'

I agreed politely and tried to mention the diarrhoea from the weekend as I had read that something like that could cause temp milk allergy (hence the puffy rash?) and she sighed and said, 'it really isn't an infection I don't think.'

Which I wasn't actually concerned about...

Then she felt DD's tummy briefly and said go back to using colic drops (which I had never said I had ever used...) and that was that.

I should probably just say that I have absolutely no vested interest in DD having a milk allergy, temporary or otherwise, I'm not remotely the kind of person who thinks food intolerances lurk around every corner...

But I think no matter what that she wasn't listening to me, she stopped listening at the mention of wind and just ignored everything less I said.

Fine, I know she is the medical pro and has ids of her own but I was just trying to say that this is all new for DD this past week and that it is extremely alarming to see her in so much pain. I am sure it isn't anything serious, I don't want cosseting and cuddling and being told all kinds of interesting and special-making 'allergies' it could be... I just wanted her to listen so that I could feel properly reassured.

I think she felt I went in there with a baby with a bit of trapped wind and that I was silly and incompetent!

I may be a bit of a worrier (what patent isn't when faced with a screaming baby day after day?) but I am not incompetent, I wouldn't have wasted her time for just a bit of trapped wind ffs.

Now I am here feeling like an idiot and still with a tiny baby who screams in pain every few hours and has these dreadful messy nappy explosions (unusual for her) and who won't finish her feeds because her stomach hurts... :(

Aibu (and totally PFB) or could she/should she have listened a bit more carefully?

Yanbu at all!!!
I would go see another gp!

That doesnt sound likd colic, coikd well be a temporary milk intolerance due to a bug.

Thank you 5madthings!!

I was recommended the surgery and this particular gp by a friend so I was hoping she would be really good!

YANBU. You can make another appointment with a different GP but also speak to the practice manager or PALS about feeling that she didn't listen to your concerns properly.

Ds is like that and HV/Paediatrican think temp milk intolerance (his is due to huge dose of ABs but Cons said can happen from tummy bugs).
I've gone milk free which is making a huge difference but not 100% better

Thanks SmiteYou...
I don't want to go down on some kind of list as being neurotic mother who also complains... I also have probably way too much respect for doctors as I always want them to be great (well, good would do...)

Ood, unfortunately I am formula feeding not bf so the only way to do dairy free is to do a lactose free milk which I think has to be prescribed? Also I would not be a fan of switching milks unless I really had to so I really wasn't there to get a diagnosis of lactose intolerance just to make me feel pacified or special... I just want DD to stop screaming in pain every few hours :(

you can get a temporary lactose intolerance from bad tummy bugs. Is she bf or ff? You could try colief drops in her milk (you can use it with breastmilk as well as formula) and see if that helps.

YANBU, I apprecitate that GP's are over stretched but by not listening to you and sufficiently reassuring you at the appointment you are now in a poisition where you need to seek further medical advice using their services again!

Is there a child health drop in clinic at the practice? Maybe try them first? failing that make an appointment with a different GP.

Have you tried the goat milk formula

x-post! Colief drops break down the lactose in milk so you could try and see if it helps. You can buy lactose free milks over the counter but they are more expensive e.g. SMA LF is one of them. Some of the Comfort milks have less lactose in them too.

goats milk formula is not approved for use in the UK

Oh I didn't know that about colief breaking down the lactose, I will try it!! Thank you!

Ilovepowerhoops thank you, I THOUGHT it was the case that you could be intolerant after a bad tummy bug!! That was why I kept trying to tell her about the weekend's diarrhoea and she just kept totally ignoring that!

My DD is on Colief mixed with breastmilk.
Dr unable to prescribe it, as they would have to test for intolerance. So I have been buying one bottle a week, its £12 for 7ml.

OP, if this continues for a while, then consider that it might be 'silent reflux' caused by some sort of milk intolerance. YANBU. If GP wont help you try another one in surgery. They can be dismissive sometimes, esp if having an 'off' day

Trackies, thank you... DD did have silent reflux for first few weeks but her symptoms were different (refusing bottle totally etc) and she seemed to have grown out of that by about week 6...

Guess I will have to try another GP but don't they hate it when you imply criticism of a colleague?!

YANBU. My DS has multiple severe allergies which manifested at about 3 months old with the symptoms you have described. My GP was woefully ignorant about allergies, would only contemplate a diagnosis of reflux and said it wasn't possible for DS to be reacting to the proteins in my breast milk. I'd get a second opinion.

Not that I'm saying your DC is allergic, but just empathising with the doctor not listening.

Some GPs are incompetent when it comes to patient 'bedside manners', there's one GP in our practice that I specifically refuse to see because he is so patronising and dismissive. My issue was nothing compared to yours but I thought my 2 week old had thrush in her mouth, went to see the GP and he prescribed stuff in two seconds without once looking at my DD to check if I was right. I could have been delusional for all he knew. I'd been uncomfortable with his manner for a while but I could never trust him after that.

I would absolutely ask to see someone else.

Don't ever think you are being PFB, it's just not worth it. She should have listened to your concerns.

When my dd was 11 days old I called the Health Visitor/midwife (can't remember which) to tell her that dd was (forgive me) spewing out dark gravy from her bum and being sick at feeds, and she had a strange red pimple showing at the crease of her thigh. She basically told me I was overreacting and just to cool her down and give her water. I called the Drs and the bloody receptionist said I could have an appt in TWO days!!!!

Luckily, I thought bollocks to that and called another more trusted HV. She came round and immediately called the Dr for an appt and then told me we'd be admitted to hospital that day as she obvs had an infection. We were in hospital 5 days and my little girl was on a drip while they pushed all sorts of stuff through her system.

Absolutely unacceptable, even allowing for people all making mistakes or having off days.

I know this doesn't help you solve your LO's problem , but I am with you totally, make as much damn fuss as you feel is right!

When you go to another GP try presenting the most serious symptom first and going on from there. So he tummy bug and then how her health has changed since. It seems to help prevent someone jumping to the conclusion that you have come in for something very minor and therefore instantly dismissing you - which was wrong of her of course but I find starting with the most serious symptom helps focus their mind on that.

YANBU Usually GPs cut new parents lots of slack or at least ours did.
She was being a 'know-it-all' about babies and a very poor listener, I reckon you'd get a better response from a male GP who would likely not be so cocky, having been humbled by his female partner telling him he is doing stuff wrongly with their kids. I'm only half-joking.

Decaf, you're quite right, I should have said the most serious first (screaming pain for hours) but I think I was just so sure that when I mentioned that plus the puffy eyelids etc that she would listen and take me seriously... So I led with the wind and she just switched off... Mistake!! :(

Just for your peace of mind, the puffiness above the eyes is fluid in the sinuses, you'll notice it when you go swimming if they go under, and sometimes in the bath or during a feed. It's perfectly normal and nothing to worry about, it'll clear quickly unless they have a cold, when it can take longer ;)

YANBU

She should have listened and then examined your baby properly. The first-born thing is a total red herring. I'm actually quite annoyed on your behalf.

I would make another appointment with a different GP.