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Should women be allowed to do everything men do?

283 replies

Hullygully · 13/06/2013 11:08

Talk to me about equality.

OP posts:
LEMisdisappointed · 13/06/2013 16:23

I fucking hate cupcakes
I fucking hate bunting
put them both together - unless you mix them up a bit Wink

reelingintheyears · 13/06/2013 16:24

What tasks are men and women each better suited to?

Examples please,DP is a qualified LD nurse,his own Dad was embarrassed by it and didn't tell people when he qualified because his workmates would think DP was a poof and this would have reflected on him.

When DP years later retrained as an electrician this was VERY GOOD and could be bragged about.

Wanker is FoL.

LEMisdisappointed · 13/06/2013 16:25

Biwi - i knew someone would ask that, but i can't for the life of me think of anything Grin

But we ARE different, we are - i don't want to be like a man, i want to be like me. I tend to do all the fixing in the house, but if its a heavy job i have to get DP to help and im actually quite strong.

reelingintheyears · 13/06/2013 16:26

I love bunting,nothing wrong with some pretty bunting fluttering around my tent flaps.

LEMisdisappointed · 13/06/2013 16:27

I don't know what to say to that reeling!

BIWI · 13/06/2013 16:27

Well of course I'm different from a man.* But what on earth difference does that make to the kind of tasks I can undertake? You seriously, seriously have to back up those kinds of assertions with examples if you're going to make them.

*I'm also different from a lot of other women. Does that mean they are better suited to some tasks than me?

reelingintheyears · 13/06/2013 16:27

Heavy jobs often require two people LEM.

Even when men are doing them.

FobblyWoof · 13/06/2013 16:30

Being equal and being different are two separate things. Women and men are different. I have a vagina and DP has a penis. That makes us different. It doesn't make us unequal.

Having a penis or having a vagina has no basis on whether someone is better at something than someone of the opposite gender (obvious exclusions like breast feeding and producing sperm aside). DP isn't better suited to working on a car, working in general

FobblyWoof · 13/06/2013 16:44

Also meant to add I very, very much consider myself a feminist and I'm also a SAHM. The two can go hand in hand very easily.

As a family we made a choice on what would be best for us. My DP would've supported a desicion for me to go back to work if it wasn't best financially because he respects my right to choose what I want to do with my life. There were a lot of things to consider when making the choice, finances, personal goals etc and we reached the conclusion together-- something I wouldn't have had much of a choice about 30 years ago. Similarly we wouldn't have been able to explore the option of DP becoming a SAHD (something we thought about) back then either as, judgement aside, women were paid so much less than men it wouldn't have been a viable option.

jellybeans · 13/06/2013 16:46

Are we not equal but different?

^ I agree with this although it is not politically correct it seems!

BIWI · 13/06/2013 16:51

Why, jellybeans? Who says it's not politically correct?

ChunkyPickle · 13/06/2013 16:57

Taking a running jump on 'generally better suited to certain types of tasks'!

People trot that one out when there's some boring task they'd prefer someone else did for them, for instance DP 'I'm no good at changing the bedsheets' - despite him being a burly 6 footer, me a stumpy pregnant woman, and the bed being a super king. No, it's not that you're no good, it's that it's a rubbish job and you don't want to do it.

People are different, people are lazy, and society unfortunately seems to be more inclined to let men and women get away with certain lazinesses (men: housework, kids, women... I dunno... something though, probably involving giggling) - nothing to do with their ability to do what ever it is at all in my opinion.

EldritchCleavage · 13/06/2013 16:59

Equal but different was a slogan of the apartheid era wasn't it? Or was it Jim Crow America? So it has undertones of 'not really equal, just paying lip service to the idea'.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/06/2013 17:16

Chunky
I agree about task avoidance. In fact I'd argue that men are biologically better adapted to cleaning, longer reach, tits don't get in the way of a cross the body hoover action, less likely to have flicky hair to get in their eyes...

p.s. I would rather not have nose hair/ear hair so can I leave out that bit of equality please.

limitedperiodonly · 13/06/2013 17:35

You can't say anything these days biwi

Oh wait a minute...

limitedperiodonly · 13/06/2013 17:36

p.s. I would rather not have nose hair/ear hair so can I leave out that bit of equality please

I take it you're well under 50 then, chaz Wink

motherinferior · 13/06/2013 17:39

I would quite like, please, to be unsuited to hoovering on account of my bosoms getting in the way. In fact all housework.

Also can I be let off sorting out childcare issues on account of having a pretty little brain that can't focus on such complicated things?

That'll do nicely. Though having just passed 50 I am waiting for bearditude.

mmmerangue · 13/06/2013 17:39

DP 'I'm no good at changing the bedsheets'

My DP insists on changing the Duvet cover for me cos he pissed himself laughing watching me try to do it once it takes me twice as long as it does him. I do the sheet and pillows then leave the Duvet for him when he gets in from work.

burberryqueen · 13/06/2013 17:44

I live on a half completed housing estate and once i was at my kitchen window watching four men 'raising the roof beams' together and although I would be the first to jump on any tosser who tells me I cannot drive as well as him or read a map etc., I honestly did wonder how four women would have managed that job in that time. perhaps the washing up fumes had got to me....

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/06/2013 17:44

limited
Less than a decade away and getting closer by the minute Confused

I await with trepidation my first chin hair.

Wuldric · 13/06/2013 17:46

No time for gender stereotyping in my household.

I earn 4x what my husband earns. He does slightly more than me of the household chores (because he has more time).

There are two components to sexism, which is very widespread incidentally.

There is the male role - which is simply irritating and unjustified

There is the female role in acquiescing, pandering - they are self-limiting attitudes. Not that I think you fall into that role, OP, but many women do.

Hullygully · 13/06/2013 17:47

One must not, of course, forget that the tasks one doesn't wish to do, are those most unsuited to one. Equally, why keep a dog and bark oneself?

OP posts:
limitedperiodonly · 13/06/2013 17:55

I change duvet covers by climbing into them with the duvet so my method is suited to a small person. I'm just glad they don't send small people up chimneys any more.

chaz I've just sprouted a tiny bristle a centimetre or less below my lower lip that's invisible (I hope) but infuriating.

I keep gripping my lower lip with my teeth and feeling for it with my upper lip so I can pluck it.

It makes me look like this
and if I don't snap out of it DH will leave me

KatieScarlett2833 · 13/06/2013 17:56

I find that most men are terrified of me. Even sexist twat DBil treats me with the utmost respect.
Good. Otherwise I'd have to kill him Wink

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/06/2013 17:59

limited
I suffer a bit with adult acne and I have horrible vision of spots and chin hairs at the same time, I'm going to look like a teenage boy.

Mind you if the chin hairs are good enough I might be able to shave like a bloke - equality after all.