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to think neither ds or I could cope with this?

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SingingSilver · 09/06/2013 11:54

Every Friday DS (16) does voluntary work at a working farm. He absolutely loves it there, and they offered to take him on after school finishes.

Initially I was told that a taxi would take him there and back (big relief to me as I can't currently afford to own a car), and that an NVQ would be tied to the work placement.

Last week I was informed that there would be no NVQ, just an unpaid work placement, and no transport provided. To get him to the farm would involve a 25 minute walk to the bus, a 30 minute bus journey, then walking through the countryside for the best part of an hour. In some places there are no footpaths and there are a few narrow 'one car' bridges with poor visibility. And the weather now is mild - what about the sun in August, foggy mornings, ice and snow? There is no way he could make the trip, he has only recently begun to walk back from school alone (25 minute walk, very familiar route), so I would have to get him there and back home. They offered me voluntary work on the farm as a solution instead of having me wander round the village for hours until the return journey.

The issue of whether it would be 'educational' is fudgey. The placement would cost £30 a day which the council will cover, but he will only be trained. Bus travel for DS and I will cost me £30 a week, and I assume Child Benefit would stop as it's an apprenticeship-style placement, not an approved course. So finances are a concern too.

DS really wants to work there, but he's also made it clear he can't imagine walking that distance alone at any point. I have a longterm problem with my knee and I worry how it would stand up to two hours of walking everyday, plus the day of farm work inbetween! (Also, I currently claim Income Support - am I even allowed to volunteer four days a week? I have to find that out.)

DS did not take GCSEs. I HE'd for three years, then he finally had enough confidence to go to hospital school for the last year, a small class with the same problems as ds. He has only come around to academic work in the last six months and has had a lot of praise from his teachers, particularly for his artwork. There may be a possibility for him to go to a college course called 'Preparing for life and work' but I may have left it too late to apply. I put all my eggs in the farm basket unfortunately.

He can't stay on at hospital school for a year and start to work towards GCSEs because even though he legally has to stay in education for another year (don't know where the farm fits in with that tbh) the school has no funding for 16 year olds.

This is keeping me awake at night. I feel upset I allowed myself to be led on for months with vague promises instead of having a Plan B/C/D in mind too. I'm toying with the idea of one more year of HE, then college if it's too late to apply. But DS has his heart set on the farm... I don't know what to do!

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NeoMaxiZoomDweebie · 09/06/2013 13:28

Thanks Silver I always remembered that particular phrase and like you, could quote big old chunks of the script.

Balaboosta · 09/06/2013 22:37

Nothing to add but hoping you find a solution, OP.

RandomMess · 09/06/2013 22:43

just what Balabosta posted Sad

whiteandyellowiris · 10/06/2013 09:54

I have v limited knowledge about this, or anything much really op

but you seemed so nice, I had to reply

anyway my thoughts are

farming sounds a good avenue for him, I guessing his not that academically able?
if youthink he would be unble to get 5 gcses at c grade
I guess he needs a type of vocational job, sounds to me like he could learn a lot of skill in farming and could do really well

I would push for some sort of vocational qualification, surely they must be able to set him up for an nvq or something?

would it be possible for him to stay on the farm, in workers accomadation a few nights a week?

good luck op
you sound like the sort of person that wil really help him get set up, so well done and hes lucky to have you

SingingSilver · 10/06/2013 22:18

Thank you!

DS could study for GCSEs but he just has no interest. As soon as he sits down at a desk his mind is a million miles away. Whereas if he's outside doing something practical he has to get on with it.

I would be happy for him to work at the farm, I'm just going to have to push for transport for him. I looked at the route today, and even in mild weather it looked challenging. Throw in any extreme of weather and I don't think I'd dare attempt it! There's a fairly busy road to cross too, so I'm certain I won't ever let him walk the route by himself.

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SingingSilver · 10/06/2013 22:22
  • Not even fairly busy, just plain busy!

Hopefully I'll get to talk to the farm manager this week. I didn't call the college, as DS was with me, and he doesn't want to hear about other options. But I'll call tomorrow when he's at school.

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ThisWayForCrazy · 11/06/2013 20:45

My son has recently completed an "Independent Travel" course through our local SEN unit. It took 20 weeks in total, twice a week where they helped him to travel to and from his school using public transport and or walking/biking.

Can you see if there's something like that available?

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee · 11/06/2013 20:51

I hope you find some funding through one of the suggestions above, but if you don't then I'd go and talk to the people at the farm (by yourself) and meet some of the staff etc and see if he could stay there M-F. Perhaphs it's something he would be willing to do if he wants to work at the farm enough and you could set up something whereby if he is totally distressed he tells his boss and you arrange to get him home (to stop him walking).

Good luck - it's not an easy life as a parent with a young adult who has SN.

SingingSilver · 11/06/2013 21:17

I will enquire about that, thank you ThisWay I'll add it to my ever-growing notes sheet!

Thanks Chipping. I'm not sure if ds could cope with staying away just yet but I will definitely ask if it could be a future option.

I heard that they are trying to organise private transport from the farm that would pick volunteers up from local towns so I'm hoping to hear more about that. it sounds like it's in the planning stages still, but could be good. Something else I heard was that they think it may be good for him to be at the farm for a year, and then go off to do a college course when he has had that life experience.

I'm wondering if I could possibly coach him through GCSEs at home during that year? It would probably be way too much for him actually! (And me!)

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Yamyoid · 11/06/2013 21:34

Wow. Anyone read 'the ragged trousered philanthropists'?
Your situation is comparable to the turn of the century where young apprentices worked for 2 years before getting any pay.
Sorry for my naiveity but that sounds like a rubbish deal for your ds, particularly with all the travel.

Socarrat · 11/06/2013 21:41

Can he not go by bike?

SingingSilver · 11/06/2013 21:43

Actually they are charging £30 a day for him to work there, the LEA are paying (I hope, it hasn't been confirmed yet!)

I don't think I see it as a poor deal, as long as we can work out a safe reliable way to get him there and home. He loves being outside, and loves the animals and the farm, you could view it like a gap year maybe, more than education. But it does seem like a route he could take in life, so some experience must be worth something.

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SingingSilver · 11/06/2013 21:46

He can't ride a bike on roads. I got him to the point of learning to ride but as soon as I suggested leaving the pavement he stopped. The bike hasn't been touched in three years, and I know he won't try again. He feels too self-conscious. Almost everywhere in our town is overlooked by windows and he's paranoid about anyone watching.

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Divinyl · 12/06/2013 16:02

I don't know if this would work, but could you investigate local 'dial a ride' schemes or similar? That journey sounds so tough, it is so frustrating when you run into things like this for want of a car (I've got one that I am wrestling with on Saturday that is a simple matter of about 40 mins if you have own transport, but I haven't found a toddler tolerable version yet). I'd be a bit daunted committing to it every day to be honest. Or might someone from the farm be able to meet your son from the bus/drop him back to the stop?

SingingSilver · 13/06/2013 11:12

No, there's nothing like that Divinyl but thanks for the suggestion Smile And no-one has mentioned lifts which I suppose means they wouldn't be falling over themselves to arrange it!

But actually it seems DS isn't as enamoured as I thought he was, he says he has to spend all his time shifting wheelbarrows, and gets no time to see the animals, so maybe college is a valid option, under the transport circumstances. But I'll be speaking to the farm manager tomorrow. I have two sides of A4 full of questoions so I hope she's ready for me!

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