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AIBU?

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Think I am probably being pathetic about DHs night out- come and calm me!

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SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 07/06/2013 19:55

This is one of those things where I am not sure if I am being a twat or not so need some second opinions. Apologies that it will most likely turn into an essay also!!

DH is very usually lovely- absolutely nothing bad you can say about him. He?s very placid and generally lets me take the driving seat but that works for us- he?s quiet and unassuming and I?m more loud and bubbly. We have been married just less than a year and I would describe us as very happy. If I had to criticise DH for anything in life it would probably be that he can be a bit of a pushover. In general I am the one who goes out and generally have more mates that him that I see regularly but he never expresses any unhappiness at this, like I say he's a quiet sort who likes his routines, his usual one quiet mate and staying in or the quiet pub.

I suffer from quite profound anxiety and have periods of bleakness- probably not quite depression but close enough. Ennui shall we say. We are trying for a baby but have been thus far- sixish months- unsuccessful. After a late period this week I have come on and felt very down in the dumps at first but am okay now. We both work as teachers and these past few weeks my work has been very stressful. As such my anxiety has been worse than usual. I am sensible about it all, medicated where I need to be and have CBT. I am telling you this for some context. I am not known for being a nag or anything and I am pretty chilled about DHs time/friends/hobbies.

DH has a group of friends from uni- a boy and two girls- and throughout our relationship the friends have been around. The boy- let?s call him Jim- lived with DH when we were first a couple so I know him well. The girls, let?s call them Sally and Jane, I know less well. Sally is my DHs ex, although from when they were 18/19 (we are now late 20s) and not for long. It was more a flash in the pan than anything and I don?t think for a second he fancies her or anything. She is engaged to someone now. I have a very similar friend in my uni gang who I shagged a bit and it never went much further than that. I still see him and it isn?t an issue, so I know the score. Jane is an utter pain in the arse- a real princess, Queen Bee who has to be at the centre of all social plans. We?ve never openly clashed but clearly we aren?t ever going to be best friends and she?s made that clear. Jane and Sally are ridiculously close- Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee style- and in each others business all the time. Whilst we all live within 40 miles of one another we are not all in the same area.

A few weeks ago Jane pitched the idea for a big night out in London to a club night. DH was up for it- he?s not a party animal but liked the idea of a uni reunion. I have no issue with DH going out and I myself often go out independent of DH with my own friends. Not an issue. I wasn?t invited but didn?t expect to be as it was the gang from uni. However as the weeks have gone on more and more people have been added to the mix, people not from uni, a couple of partners of people- and there?s been much talk on Facebook about it. As each week passed I kept expecting to get invited, but DH didn?t mention it. Then when I brought it up he was vague about tickets and said he didn?t actually know if others were going, it was just Facebook chat etc. I?ve become increasingly resentful, but I think I wanted him to say he wanted me there really. He didn?t, though. This came to a head last night when I got upset and said I?d like to come. He said it would be impossible now as the tickets were definitely sold out, but he then got upset and said he wouldn?t go. I said not to be silly and that he should- feeling really bad- and I do want him to have fun- it?s not like I?m some witch of a wife who wants him in with me all the time. But tonight Jim has been here getting ready (he?s staying over) and innocently said ?Oh, aren?t you coming, Dizzy?? and I replied, perhaps a little bitterly that I hadn?t been invited. I didn?t show I was upset but DH clearly knew. I took them to the station and within 5 mins had a text from DH saying ?sorry you?re upset?. I feel petty and childish but I am angry with the girls for excluding me and angry with him for not fighting my corner or insisting that I come and being a bit spineless- or alternatively for just not wanting me to come.

I know it sounds stupid but Sally and Jane are those typical ?popular girls? you knew at school. I was always a geeky girl- still am a bit, lol- but they are still playing the game now, in their late twenties. They?re always out and about, looking fabulous and groomed and just generally being perfect. Don?t get me wrong- I?m not insecure and am happy with myself and my life? but something about these two just makes me feel inadequate in the extreme. I just looked at my FB feed and they?ve both already posted loads of ?hilarious? photos of the pre drinks and of DH and pals having cocktails in her flat before they go out. I just feel as crap as I did when I was 15 and I thought everyone else was out without me.

I know this is massively pathetic and I am just feeling sorry for myself because I?m in and it?s a nice night. My friends aren?t around- best friend is a doctor and often on duty at weird times so this week I have seen her on a weeknight- and for various reasons other friends are busy or elsewhere this weekend. No big deal but I feel so angry and resentful and a) it?s not like me and b) I think I am probably being seriously unreasonable. So, lovely ladies of Mumsnet, snap me out of it please. And thanks so much if you got this far!!

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Rhubarbcrumblewithcustard · 07/06/2013 19:59

I would feel totally the same. I'm surprised your OH didn't invite you.

YANBU.

ScarletLady02 · 07/06/2013 20:06

If it was specifically a Uni night, or a "boy's night" I wouldn't care at all about not being invited...however if other people's partners etc are going I definitely would be a bit gutted if DH didn't think to invite me to be honest. Whether I wanted to go or not wouldn't matter, it would be nice to be asked.

If I couldn't go, like if we couldn't afford it, or we couldn't get a babysitter (not an issue for you obviously) then I'd tell him to go and have no problem, but I can understand why you're a bit upset, especially if his friend expected you to be coming.

SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 07/06/2013 20:07

Thanks guys- yeah I think that's what's pissed me off is that Jim so clearly expected me to be going and that highlighted how weird it was that I wasn't.

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JeanPaget · 07/06/2013 20:09

It's horrible feeling excluded from things and I can understand why you're upset.

But, you go on nights without your husband and I do think YABU to be upset with him. He's only doing what you've done yourself on other occasions. It don't think it's particularly fair of you to spoil his night out by letting him know you're upset and therefore making him spend the night worried about having to home to his moaning faced wife.

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 07/06/2013 20:10

If it's widened to include other people's partners then I would be hurt and upset in your position. YANBU. Have you replied to the text? If not I would leave it and talk to him about it face to face.

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 07/06/2013 20:11

He wouldn't have to worry if he was sure that what he'd done was reasonable. The text shows he's aware it's a bit crap of him.

StrawberryMojito · 07/06/2013 20:18

You're human, I understand why you're not happy BUT

Why are you so pissed off at those girls and not Jim? He could have invited you as could your DH. The night out has obviously grown out of something small. It was your DHs responsibility to invite you but he has decided that he wanted a night out without you. There is nothing wrong with that, everyone needs a night out with their mates every so often, it doesn't have to reflect badly on your partner.

You sound jealous of these girls who don't sound like they have done anything wrong.

ilovesooty · 07/06/2013 20:23

I don't think the girls have done anything wrong either.

LEMisdisappointed · 07/06/2013 20:24

Like you say, hes a push over, but i would expect him to be loyal to you - if other people were invited apart from the strict gang then the invitation should have been extended to you. Maybe the girls (Jane?) felt the dynamic would be different if partners were there - i prefer to go out without DP if i'm honest and he would quite happily never go out so it works for us.

That would be my criteria for pissedoffness i think, if other partners were invited then - mighty pissed off. No other partners invited - sit in and be self indulgent with wine and chocolates and shit telly x

LEMisdisappointed · 07/06/2013 20:25

Reply to the text, "no, its fine, really - have a good night" then put his balls in the blender in the morning

TigOldBitties · 07/06/2013 20:26

I get where you're coming from its never nice to feel excluded.

However,

-it's just one night out, not really a big deal
-the only person to be annoyed with is your DH it was his responsibility to invite you
-it sounds like something that has just grown and your DH missed the markers of when he should have invited you and then it was too late
-you haven't said anything the girls have actually done to you, while you said you aren't insecure, you've created this whole thing that they are the popular ones you are the geek etc etc they probably don't give a shiny shit either way
-your probably feeling particularly sensitive at the moment because of what else is going on

I'd just say let it go, you've missed I now so don't drag it out after tonight, there was clearly no malice in your DH not inviting you and he's clearly bothered by you being upset. Stop labelling yourself and others, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy and finally people, especially men are not mind readers. If you want something say so, you saw all he facebooking, you should have said something to your DH.

OHforDUCKScake · 07/06/2013 20:28

Yeah that would totally piss me off. Id feel as though they made me feel like an idiot or outcast. Not that Im saying that you are those things, and mor should you feel them. Just thats how itd make me feel.

MikeLitoris · 07/06/2013 20:31

Well. I can see why you're not happy but if I was you dh in this situation I wouldn't haee invited you either.

For me its not about wanting to exlude my dp or not wanting to spend time with him. Its about wanting a night out with my friends on my own. Irrelevant of there being other partners invited or not.

That said if your upset your should tell him. Speak to him tomorrow and tell him exactly how you felt.

Resentment will just fester away otherwise.

deleted203 · 07/06/2013 20:32

I can understand you feeling left out, but I think DH probably just felt the dynamic would be different if you were there, IYSWIM. He would be spending time checking you were ok, and not feeling left out, when he probably just wants to reminisce over old 'uni' times with the folks he knew then. Yes, there are others now going, but I imagine DH won't be chatting with them much, as presumably he isn't very interested in talking to other peoples partners, etc. I always find it terribly dull to be included as a 'Plus One', personally. The only thing we ever have in common is that our partners work together/went to school together, or whatever. I'm generally bored to tears at such social gatherings.

I don't think you are being unreasonable to feel a bit hurt and left out, but I'd enjoy a free evening without DH and then do something nice together some other time.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 07/06/2013 20:34

If you say that you're not bothered that your DH is having a rare night out without you then you should stand by that - whether or not other people, partners are going.

Your DH either was very confused about the 'ticket sales' or he really didn't want you there. You do sound as if you would be marking your territory because of your feelings about these girls and if that's the case - that's NOT on. If you would have genuinely wanted to go on this night out and would have participated without markings these girls' cards then you should have said so and asked to attend. It is still a Uni 'do' but other people are attending also, it happens like that sometimes. Some partners/friends can slot right in. I don't think you would; you really don't like these girls and that's obvious.

I think you need to get your feelings of inadequacy and unreasonable jealousy under control. You're young, without children at the moment and you both should be able to go out. You do it often, your husband doesn't. Assuming that you trust him and he's given you no reason to doubt him, you need to reign it in. Please don't sulk when he gets home.

Have a nice takeaway and watch something good on tv/listen to music.

SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 07/06/2013 20:40

Thanks all. I agree with pretty much everything that's been said- I do know my anger and general pissedoffness are a bit unreasonable hence why I've come to vent here and not at DH.

The girls are unpleasant. They have variously excluded me from things over the years but its hard to explain without sounding pathetic IUSWIM Grin usually I let it go over my head because I have good friends of my own and they're pretty vacuous and irritating so I wouldn't want to hang around with them but for some reason this evening has got to me.

I'm not taking it out on DH and I replied to the text with something pleasant so he wouldn't worry and could have some fun. I think I've more than likely been a bit of a dick but at least I haven't started a row with the poor fella.

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BridgetBidet · 07/06/2013 20:41

It's not really his fault. He didn't pick up that you wanted to come and by the time you said you wanted to go tickets were sold out. That's not really his fault is it? And he couldn't read your mind before then. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

digerd · 07/06/2013 20:43

I was never into crowds of people and lots of noise and both DH and I would not have wanted to go. But if I were you and DH was going but I wasn't invited, I would be extremely upset at being excluded.

I wonder what reason DH will give when others ask why you are not with him?

YANBU.

Sallystyle · 07/06/2013 21:04

Can I ask why you use question marks instead of apostrophes? I take it your ' is broke? :)

I don't think YABU, I can understand why you are upset.

SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 07/06/2013 21:05

No clue re the question marks- sorry Confused it looked normal on the app! Grin

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MrsLyman · 07/06/2013 21:20

I think he just wanted to go out with his mates without you, doubt it's anything more sinister than that. It's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to want to do, if he's normally a pushover he probably just avoided mentioning so that he could get to do this hassle free. Jim was just being polite.

You are totally over thinking this but I do understand why.

ENormaSnob · 07/06/2013 21:37

Yanbu, I would be pissed off too.

Wine and Flowers for you op, you sound so nice and reasonable.

SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 07/06/2013 22:18

Aah thanks Norma Smile that means a lot. I spend most of my life tied up in knots so it is probably a huge over think. I'm feeling a lot better for all this great advice. Love you mumsnetters! Envy

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maddening · 07/06/2013 23:16

It isn't the girls that excluded you it is your dh - if it were the girls that did so then Jim wouldn't have expected you to be going.

Initially it was a uni night but once it was extended to others then your dh had the option to include you and evidently chose not to.

maddening · 07/06/2013 23:17

Ps that probably isn't helpful - my point is it isn't an popular girls exlude you thing.