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it has taken me to age 34 to twig that there are NO female characters in Thomas the Tank Engine

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sleeplessbunny · 06/06/2013 07:18

Just that really.

I don't know if I am more astounded by the fact there are actually no female characters, or the fact that it has taken until yesterday for me to realise, despite watching it practically daily as a child. I always loved watching it (still do Blush)

Both are quite worrying really

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HoppinMad · 07/06/2013 01:01

Theres also
Madge
Molly
Isabella
Kelly

(Just had a peak at ds1's big collectables poster from 2011).

Manchesterhistorygirl · 07/06/2013 11:04

We went to Drayton manor yesterday.

JollyShortGiant · 07/06/2013 12:48

Drayton Manor is like 500 miles from us so it's a big trip. 2 yo DS is going to be beside himself with excitement!

DinoSnores · 07/06/2013 13:10

hearts, that's my favourite story! She isn't cross about the fact that Thomas is in her dining room at all!

Technotropic · 07/06/2013 13:20

I am 38, and I neither noticed or cared that these programmes are gender biased. MUST we feminise everything? They are trains and stuffed toys! FGS!

^This

HoppinMad · 07/06/2013 14:37

Yes saggy and Techno, iswym I am on the fence about this gender thing, BUT my ds thinks they are real boy or girl train characters/engines/whatever. We might not care but the kids who Thomas and crew are aimed at do.
Emily is a bossy buffers, Rosie is a tomboy and wants to copy Thomas' every move Hmm Mavis is miserable as sin. I could go on...

thecatcamebacktheverynextday · 07/06/2013 14:41

Going back a page but KansasCityOctopus you are SO wrong about the animals of farthing wood. It was improved by having more than the one female that appears in the first book. Grin Not only was it more balanced, the vast majority of kids who watched me (myself included) were girls.

Is Drayton Manor Thomasland any good btw? DD (who goes nuts when she sees the adverts!) would love it I think.

HoppinMad · 07/06/2013 14:45

Yes we took ds (3) a couple of months ago and he loved it, sat on all the rides but there was a very long queue for the bit where you can sit in the trains etc so had to give that a miss unfortunately. Would love to go again, he still talks about it. Also the kids rides in the main part of Drayton Manor are good too, sat on most of them.

thecatcamebacktheverynextday · 07/06/2013 15:36

Thanks Hoppin Smile I want to go too so I can go on the adult rides!

Technotropic · 07/06/2013 15:43

HoppinMad

It's a tricky one but fiction and the characters that a writer chooses is a personal thing and a freedom that writers should have IMHO. Anything else is a deviation from the original concept and for good/bad I think writers should be able to express themselves in a way that is true to their ideas.

It is the regulators that should decide whether a programme is appropriate and should be aired on tv.

All IMHO of course.

TheSmallClanger · 07/06/2013 17:02

None of the current Thomas stories were written by the original author though, were they? The original books will still have the same characters (and self-hating protestant conservative morals).

If there are no female trains, then where do baby trains come from? Grin

Louise1956 · 07/06/2013 17:43

the carriages are girls, Annie and Clarabel, and there's a diesel engine I think called Daisy or something who was introduced in the later books.

but I imagine the books were probably aimed at boys originally, so Rev. awdry probably didn't think female characters were necessary. or maybe he just saw engines as male.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 07/06/2013 17:57

Dino I know it has always amused me that she doesn't even comment on the huge gaping hole in the side of her house Grin

Branleuse · 07/06/2013 19:29

rheneas

jamdonut · 08/06/2013 11:15

Daisy first appears in book 16, "Branch Line Engines",after Thomas has his big accident and goes to be repaired!

jamdonut · 08/06/2013 12:02

Rheneas is a male engine in book 10,Four Little Engines.

LilQueenie · 08/06/2013 12:37

dont forget henrietta from the early stories. She was Tobys carriage.

theliverpoolone · 08/06/2013 13:10

Yesterday's episode was all about an engine called Caitlin Smile.

edam · 08/06/2013 13:26

Funny thing is steam enthusiasts call engines 'she'. Even if they have a male name.

Revd. Awdry was a steam enthusiast back in the days when lines had closed and sheds railways left to fall into disrepair. People who were into railways were male and the books were written for little boys. Of course you wouldn't do it nowadays, but I can see how it happened. My Dad is a steam railway buff and I remember, as a small child in the 70s, people sympathising with him about having daughters - while we were stood next to him, FFS. Hmm

(Actually our possession of X chromosones never stopped my Dad taking us onto footplates or engine sheds, as it happened - many an hour of my childhood was spent on railways.)

My Dad knew Revd. Awdry and by all accounts he was a nice chap. In the days when chaps were chaps and didn't think about equality for women.

The original stories were all based on real events - they were all about things that had happened, such as the cricket ball ending up on the trucks and being carried off by the train. The sort of stories steam enthusiasts would tell each other down the pub after a long day shovelling coal.

The one that gets me is the one about the Little Lost Engine. I welled up every time I read it to ds, as it is true - the Little Lost Engine really was forgotten when his railway closed and Revd. Awdry really did stumble across his shed, covered over by the weather washing soil over it, on a Welsh hillside. He's called Prince, and he was rescued and lives on the Ffestiniog Railway (last I heard). Awww...

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