To think Nick Ross is having some kind of midlife crisis/nervous breakdown

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After the deeply unpleasant article on rape,Mr Ross has decided to share that he would "probably watch child pornograhpy". That cannot be the admission of a man thinking clearly? Deeply disturbing.

www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10094749/Id-probably-watch-child-porn-admits-former-Crimwwatch-presenter-Nick-Ross.html

Yes Eldritch. There needs to be a move away from calling this Child porn . These are children being abused and child rapes being filmed. Let's call them what they are.

Wasn't 'curiosity' the argument put forward by Pete Townsend?

afair he tried to claim it was 'research'.

I actually think Pete Townsend was a rather different case: apparently only one instance of accessing indecent material while writing his autobioography (still wrong) and he went to his lawyers for advice and then informed police he had done it. They were content to warn but not caution him, until someone leaked it to the Daily Mail (probably a copper, for money) who then hounded him. Cue reversal of decision and PT got a caution. He described himself as an abuse survivor still tormented by his experiences. Who knows, but the whole thing stank.

I think it actually was in PT's case and he was trying to show it was too easy. He had been abused as a child ?? I saw him on chat show and went from total cynic to being reasonably convinced in his story.

Reminding me slightly of Bill Roache, saying 'odd' things and then down the line being arrested. No ordinary person looks at images of child abuse out of curiosity to see what all the fuss is about

what is wrong with these people seriously first bill roache and now him and everybody else inbetween, I saw him on tv last week he looked a weird grey colour and was jibbering on about women and rape I was

Anne Diamond is fucking me right off. Slut shaming, victim blaming, awful woman.
Of course men are going to sleep with slutty young girls who throw themselves at said bloke. They can't help it. Maybe those little madams should take a jolly good look at what they're wearing, ho yus.

I don't know a single man that can't stop himself from raping a child. I shudder to think of her social circles.

She's there backing Ross and his ilk right up.

I looked at the article so I know who he is now.

I'm surmising that because he's presented Crimewatch that he imagines himself to be some form of law/crime 'insider' -the fucking thick fool.

He seems to think he's bestowing us with some sort of insider knowledge. As for the racial stuff, oh dear. I wonder has he ever read any actual proper research....no, I doubt it, just spouting dangerous drivel for attention.

He's the worst kind of thick person. Thick, but doesn't realise he's thick.

That link is like something from the Daily Mash.

I read an article about child pornography in which the journalist vaguely described some of the images they'd been shown by law enforcement when interviewed about the issue. I think this Nick Ross person was in a similar position? I don't really know, as I'd never heard of the man before this week.

I think if Pete Townsend had been really looking out of perverted motives, there would have been more than just that one instance. I do think his story is plausible. But, I obviously can't know for sure.

Yesterday he urged people to read his book: Musings From Ward 8 Of the Twilight Home For The Bewildered.

Gawd, that is awful - what is he trying to say? What is he trying to achieve?
Agree with eldritch - don't know why people use the terms child porn- even that suggests something about their mindset.

How devastating his views could be, when he is a man synonymous with understanding and solving crime, cannot be underestimated. He could put work done on changing views about sex crimes right back. People see a man they trust to tell them the truth about crime coming out with this shit and they think he must be right.

I saw him This Morning (for my sins) try to justify his foul rape apologism, and he just couldn't. I would've felt sorry for him, if he wasn't a misogynist pig who'd got it totally wrong. It says something when Eamonn Holmes, not known for being a paragon of Feminist values, came across as Millie Tant in comparison, when tackling him.

This latest thing is even worse. I can't imagine thinking "oh yeah, I'll have a quick look" if someone offered to show me some images of child abuse, even in some totally legitimate scenario. As part of my academic research, I could've got legal access to viewing snuff films or gonzo porn (please don't Google if you don't know these terms, trust me), but I couldn't bring myself to, and chose to take my research down a different route, because I know that someone was abused, hurt or killed for these things and I refuse to collude with that.

Too many people, who have no interest in the stuff themselves, still minimise images of child abuse (and indeed 'normal' porn, as there is a lot of force, abuse, etc.,involved in much of it) as 'they're just pictures'. Well, no, real children were hideously abused to make them. They're not bloody pencil drawings, FFS.

I had a friend (sadly died) whose father made abuse films of her. How did I find this out? Because once we were in London, and a man came up to her, saying he knew her. She denied it, and suddenly a light went on behind his eyes, and a twisted, malevolent sneer came on his face, and he made it clear how he knew her. From the films (she had a very distinctive face, being an uncommon duel heritage mix). I got her away from the pervert and she told me about it. I can never forget her words: "It's like I'm still being abused, every day". She was 35 and the films and images of her from more than 20 years before were still in circulation.

I do not call that 'a fuss'.

As for the racial stuff, it's so ridiculous and wrong that I don't know where to start.

I saw him This Morning (for my sins) try to justify his foul rape apologism, and he just couldn't. I would've felt sorry for him, if he wasn't a misogynist pig who'd got it totally wrong. It says something when Eamonn Holmes, not known for being a paragon of Feminist values, came across as Millie Tant in comparison, when tackling him.

that is where I saw him though Eamon handled it really well, I really don't understand why these men think it is ok to come out with this rubbish,

NR was interviewed in yesterday's Sunday Times, and came across as completely incoherent, unable to answer any of the points the journalist made.

"rape is not always rape" "child porn I'd like to know what the fuss is about" - yuk. he always seemed reasonably decent back in the old Crimewatch days.

I am sure he might habe said on T M last week that girls leave nothing to the imagination and there is no mystery anymore, I have heard that recently and have been racking my brain to remember who said it

the mumbling and incoherrant(sp) sentences baffle me

is it because they know they are talking bollocks and just looking for publicity for new book or whatever, or is there actually something not quite right about them either way it is shifty

Oh, sex still holds lots of mystery. For a start, there's that mystery about whether people want to do it with you or not.

Unfortunately it's not just police who have to look at these images. I practised criminal law early in my career and had to view images in order to advise a suspect. NR's terminology offends me, it attempts to give a legitimacy to something indefensible. These are real children. And you have no idea whether they are alive or dead or how they were treated although some of the images I saw made that pretty clear. It's incredibly distressing viewing and I am incensed that he can discuss it so casually as if people were over reacting.

What odd and bizarre behaviour he's exhibiting; i would be embarrassed (and concerned) if i was a relative.

What planet is he on? How can he say that child abuse is a 'fuss'? Just weird.

Wasn't there some talk of writing to the BBC to try to ensure he wasn't hired for any of their programs again given his views?

I've found the past week or so of reading his ratings highly disturbing. I am utterly amazed at these people who find reasons to explain rape/incest/child abuse etc. I once heard someone explain their friend's peadophilia by blaming the sicko's wife! Apparently she hadn't been a proper wife to him so that forced him to gather hundreds if child abuse images over several years via the internet [hmmm]. Ladies, make sure you shaggy your men on a regular basis so you keep them from turning, against their wills, into abusive paedos!!!"

I come from the same town in mid wales where April Jones was killed- his comments are outrageous given the background to this case. Unbelievable.

I can't believe that he thinks this is a normal thing to say.

No right minded adult is "curious" about child abuse surely?