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to be sickened by the level of violence and gore in horror films these days?

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dontmeanto · 13/05/2013 16:41

...and the sheer volume of them??

DP and I went to hire a film Saturday night as a treat and couldn't believe just how many of these films were on the New Arrivals shelves.

Various plots on abduction, torture, force, maiming, etc.

I guess I just don't get why people are entertained by these films? I find them disturbing at best and absolutely disgusting at worst.

I just don't want those types of things in my head, and I worry there's a generation out there that will in some way become desensitised to this level of violence by making these films "cool" to watch with friends.

I remember being shocked by Scream when I was a teen, but these now are a billion times worse!

AIBU?

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Morloth · 14/05/2013 10:22

Makes for an excellent thread though.

I am fine with 'fantasy' violence, but don't like anything that could possibly happen in real life nor anything to do with children.

Hence I will play Skyrim but not Call of Duty.

Fakebook · 14/05/2013 10:31

Aaw, I love a good Illuminati thread. Grin.

This is new. The level of graphic detail and gore that people are now exposed to is beyond anything that was ever shown or written about before in human history.

Soz claig, but I beg to differ. Public hangings, burning "witches" and the gladiatorial games were a teeny bit more horrific than films today. They were real. Can you imagine getting a 4D version of witch burning? The sight, the smell, the sounds?...that would have scared the shit out of me.

As for the illuminati and desensitisation of people: out of all my friends, I'm the only one who enjoys horror movies. Even my DH can't watch them. So they're not doing a very good job are they?(!)

claig · 14/05/2013 10:34

' Public hangings, burning "witches" and the gladiatorial games were a teeny bit more horrific than films today.'

Of course they were and that is why we abolished them, just as we abolished bear baiting and other forms of cruelty.

But they are now making films that simulate the cruelty and horror and bring it into your own living room in graphic detail.

'Can you imagine getting a 4D version of witch burning? The sight, the smell, the sounds?'

Who is to say that the men in suits aren't working on such horrors already?

Morloth · 14/05/2013 10:34

Do they all wear suits all the time? Are they all men?

IMO the violence is built into people, it is part of being human.

I don't watch the movies people are talking about and I definitely have a tendency towards violence that I need to consciously control and I am a 'nice' mummy who just potters along.

claig · 14/05/2013 10:35

'I'm the only one who enjoys horror movies. Even my DH can't watch them. So they're not doing a very good job are they?(!)'

No they are not having it all their own way. Good always triumphs over evil and when the people wake up to what is being done to them deliberately, they will defeat the men in suits.

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dontmeanto · 14/05/2013 10:39

Witch burnings were not for entertainment. They were essentially there because of fear of satanism.

Gladiatorial games were for entertainment, but shouldn't we have evolved to NOT be entertained by watching other humans being tortured or violently killed? Even if fictitiously but realistically portrayed on screen?

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claig · 14/05/2013 10:39

'but don't like anything that could possibly happen in real life'

Thisis what ii ts all about. They want to make it real
they don't want fantasy, they want to simulate it for you in your own living room, to "assault your senses" and break boundaries so that you can experience the simulation "to the last detail".

They really want to make it real in all its nasty, evil, sickening gore.

they want you to become accustomed to it, to even queue up for it at midnight because they say it is real they want you to get used to and accept the reality that will be the future they intend to realise.

Morloth · 14/05/2013 10:41

Who exactly is they claig?

I am inclined to think there is no 'they' only 'us'.

We get the society we deserve.

Tailtwister · 14/05/2013 10:45

I agree, some of the stuff out there is really horrendous. I know it doesn't bother a lot of people, but I just can't watch it. The few (probably very tame) films I've seen have stayed with me and I find it very hard to get some of the images out of my head.

claig · 14/05/2013 10:50

"I am inclined to think there is no 'they' only 'us'.

We get the society we deserve."

No. This is wrong. This is what the message they sell us. they even tell us we are to blame for the financial crisis because we borrowed too much. It is always our fault according to them.

The people in Russia didn't deserve Stalin and the people in Cambodia didn't deserve Pol Pot and the people in China didn't deserve Mao.

There is evil in this world, but people do not deserve it.

We have to stand up against it and prevent the hounds of hell being turned loose on us by evil people.

Fakebook · 14/05/2013 10:50

Do the men in suits look like Will Smith? Because I'd like that.

I know we should have evolved into not being entertained by humans dying, but death is so mystifying to humans that people can't help being compelled into watching things that are out of the norm.

Yesterday my DH saw a man jump off a historical tower in our city centre. There was blood on the floor and the police cordoned off the area, but there were people standing in crowds taking pictures on their phones. You don't need something to be a form of entertainment for people to turn it into it.

Morloth · 14/05/2013 10:55

It must be very stressful being you claig.

I can't tell if you actually believe what you are typing or if you are just shitting us - either way it is entertaining.

I think I will take my chances with the men in suits rather than have some other men in suits tell me what is suitable for me.

claig · 14/05/2013 10:55

'There was blood on the floor and the police cordoned off the area'

The police rightly cordoned off the area
They prevented the ghoulish from getting too close and they respected teh human being by probably covering the body and shielding it from public view.

These films are totally different. they show no respect to human life. they disect "down to the last detail" every twist and turn and suffering of a human being. They revel in the sickening, prolonged realism of blood, gore and death.

They are evil in their wallowing in suffering.

claig · 14/05/2013 10:57

'It must be very stressful being you claig.'

Common sense and decency is not stressful. On the contrary.

Morloth · 14/05/2013 10:58

So you are not actually concerned about this vast conspiracy then?

If you actually believed what you are saying you would be very stressed indeed surely?

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 14/05/2013 11:00

"But they are now making films that simulate the cruelty and horror and bring it into your own living room in graphic detail."

Key word there is simulate.

You have been dangerously over thinking this and actually I think you must be pretty ill if you actually believe all this shite. hides OFRS

claig · 14/05/2013 11:00

I can't change the world. I only try to understand it.
I can't rid the world of evil, I can only try to expose it.

Morloth · 14/05/2013 11:01

So no need for concern then?

Excellent.

I shall continue on my brainwashed way.

claig · 14/05/2013 11:02

'Key word there is simulate'

They are simulating it "down to the last detail". They are trying to make it as real as they can.

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 14/05/2013 11:03

Good, I quite like a bit of realistic violence. Wink

BeerTricksPotter · 14/05/2013 11:05

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claig · 14/05/2013 11:05

'I shall continue on my brainwashed way.'

You shouldn't do that. Because brainwashing harms you and and "assaults your senses". You have to try and realise what is being done and why and you have to try and protect yourself and your family and friends and society from what is being done to it.

Don't buy the crap, don't watch the crap, and vote for MPs who want to censor the crap.

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 14/05/2013 11:06

And don't you think that if this was all real "they" would just get on with the violence and brutality? Why would they even give a toss if we were de-sensitised to it, surely that's counter productive if they're wanting to go the whole way with torture and killing a violence.

Fakebook · 14/05/2013 11:06

Claig, stop hero worshipping yourself. You're not exposing anything that needs to be exposed.

Now excuse me, I need to go and sharpen my biggest kitchen knives.

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 14/05/2013 11:07

Ohh popcorn. I'll have the toffee stuff please. :o