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AIBU?

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Original poster

to think we should ban non-vaccinated from preschool

126 replies

BlackMaryJanes · 07/05/2013 17:41

I saw this article today:

"Kids Who Haven't Been Vaccinated May Be Banned From Preschool"

...and I'm inclined to agree.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Sparhawk · 07/05/2013 17:43

What about kids who can't be vaccinated? I hate anti-vaccers but YABU.

Sparhawk · 07/05/2013 17:44

Plus I'm sure this thread has been done over and over again.

NickNacks · 07/05/2013 17:44

I see the point but where would it stop? Ban them from the workplace? Public places?

SuffolkNWhat · 07/05/2013 17:44

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Bobyan · 07/05/2013 18:03

My dh returned to Britain after being abroad due to his dad's job and he wasn't allowed to attend primary school until he had received all of his injections. Its clearly not a new idea...

TattyDevine · 07/05/2013 18:14

I thought the stance in this country was that every child is entitled to an education. That includes preschool. Anyone know?

TattyDevine · 07/05/2013 18:15

And if you consider prechool is 2 years and above, generally, those who believe in vaccinating their children will have vaccinated children, as they are done by 13 months (until about 3 and a half when they are due a booster, which, if you believe in vaccination, you will do.

TattyDevine · 07/05/2013 18:16

So YABU

scaevola · 07/05/2013 18:18

The article is about an Aussie campaign. IIRC, Australia already has various measures to encourage vaccination (lower or nil rate of child benefit if you don't).

It's never been a requirement in UK state schools (private schools can set whatever conditions they like), and I think it would be wrong to limit access to education on medical grounds. And I suspect parents would be tempted to lie and it would be hard to check.

It would be simpler to legislate to make vaccination compulsory, but to police such a system would require merging of NHS records with other government records. And given the general horlicks (and data losses) fom ever bigger Govt IT and ID projects I think it would be a massive logistic fail. An unenforceable law would be a bad law.

libertyflip · 07/05/2013 18:18

I think YABU because it would be punishing a child for something they have no control over.

likeitorlumpit · 07/05/2013 18:25

if yours have been vaccinated what is the problem ?

thecakeisalie · 07/05/2013 18:28

Even if non vaccinated children weren't allowed to attend preschool they would still be mixing in public places/playgroups so if your worried about the spread of something like measles it wouldn't eliminate the risk. As someone has said its all about creating herd immunity So in theory it couldn't spread, obviously in Wales its not really working right now and I doubt banning non vaccinated kids from preschool would have been enough to stop the outbreak (we live just over the border of North Wales)

crashdoll · 07/05/2013 18:32

YABU. I'm pro-vax but no, it is not a good idea. While I may not agree with a person's choice to not vaccinate, I do still feel that it is a choice that they have the right to make.

CloudsAndTrees · 07/05/2013 18:36

YABU. Vaccine damage may be incredibly rare, bit it does exist. You advocate forcing people to inject something into their child that has the potential to damage them otherwise they get denied an early years education?

You think it's ok to deny something fundamental to a child because of a choice of a parent?

Sirzy · 07/05/2013 18:40

if yours have been vaccinated what is the problem ?

No vaccine is 100% effective so in theory unvaccinated children do increase the risk to vaccinated children albeit very slightly.

That said I think banning unvaccinated children is wrong and punishes the parents for a decision out of the child's control.

bigbuttons · 07/05/2013 18:41

OP you are ignorant and narrow minded

LouiseSmith · 07/05/2013 18:46

Why don't we ban cancer patients from being outside to we may catch that......

I seriously think we are in danger of returning to the dark ages with thinking...

infamouspoo · 07/05/2013 18:46

unvaxxed children arent hotbeds of disease you know.

OhLori · 07/05/2013 18:47

No, we shouldn't ban "non-vaccinated" children. All medicines have side effects and we should all have free choice whether to take them or not

p.s. If your child is vaccinated, what difference does it make to you anyway - he or she won't catch anything Confused

CuntAlors · 07/05/2013 18:51

My children weren't allowed to start school without signed proof from the doctor that they'd had their vaccinations. (in France)

FreddieMisaGREATshag · 07/05/2013 18:53

Popcorn anyone?

likeitorlumpit · 07/05/2013 18:54

thanks freddie a large coke as well please :)

youmeatsix · 07/05/2013 18:55

my children are all older teens now, but i had to prove they had been vaccinated before they could go to nursery aged 3, and then all 3 had to again prove at primary school admittance, (in Scotland)

infamouspoo · 07/05/2013 18:56

cheers Freddie. If I can get it through the hazmat suit protecting me from my unvaxxed child.
Dont worry folks. He cant be vaxxed for medical reasons. That makes him somehow different so people like the OP can say 'oh I didnt mean you'
Grin

ShadowStorm · 07/05/2013 19:02

OP, would you allow children who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons to attend pre-school?