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To think this man is awesome

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PatPig · 07/05/2013 13:04

fox8.com/2013/05/06/neighbor-i-got-amanda-berry-send-the-police-out/

Hell yeah!

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HollaAtMeBaby · 07/05/2013 21:24

YANBU. So many people would have thought "meh, domestic, better not get involved" and that would have been that.

And FWIW I am as English they come and actually rather posh (or so I'm told), and I say "awesome". So there.

RevoltingPeasant · 07/05/2013 21:35

How perfeckly toppin' of you, Holla. Wink

creighton · 07/05/2013 21:45

i think it is a good story. we know the background story, the questioning, the trial will all come later. give people five minutes to be happy after 10 years of campaigning to find the missing girls (as they were).

NiceTabard · 07/05/2013 21:49

I just can't feel happy about the story at all. It makes me feel really sad and upset.

Of course not everyone feels the same way about stuff. It just doesn't feel joyful, I just think of what they have been going through for the last 10 years.

WafflyVersatile · 07/05/2013 21:53

The bad story was that they were thought dead (more than likely). The bad story was that they've spent 10 years prisoners and more. Today is good news. Complex and difficult times ahead but a dime to a dollar the balance of feeling for those girls and their families today is happy not sad.

NiceTabard · 07/05/2013 21:55

You have no way of knowing how they are feeling though, how they will feel in years to come, how they and their children will cope.

I hope they will be OK but what they must have gone through is just so utterly horrifying I cannot find the joy in it at all.

Greythorne · 07/05/2013 21:57

He is funny, articulate, charming and self-deprecating.

But this story is so harrowing, his role is very minor.

Those girls who became women in the captivity of a sociopath are the real story, and very brave and inspiring.

HollyBerryBush · 07/05/2013 21:59

No one has read any further than the headlines have they?

Three girls kidnapped, abused, beaten to procure miscarriages, still born babies disposed of, one child (6) born live.

The captors daughter, ran away from home when pregnant, now doing a 25 stretch, MH issues, stabbed her own baby and commit suicide.

Not rocket science is it?

WafflyVersatile · 07/05/2013 22:22

Oh well, I for one am happy that they won't be getting beaten and raped tonight.

Quite a few people on these boards have suffered horribly at the hands of abusive partners, sometimes for 10 years and more. I'm happy for them when they escape that and generally they seem to be happy they escaped too. That day of escape has been greeted joyfully on many occasions on here.

SarahAndFuck · 07/05/2013 22:32

Not one person has suggested that everything is going to be all happiness from now on for these woman and that little girl.

They've been through an ordeal that is unimaginable to many of us and being glad for them that they are free, and taking pleasure in the fact that their rescuer seems like such a lovely, modest, funny and kind man, doesn't mean that we don't comprehend how awful these past ten years have been for them or how hard the years to come may still be.

I'll join Waffly in being happy for them that they are safe tonight, reunited with loved ones and hopefully getting the help and support and privacy they will need to move forward from now on.

I'd much rather the media focused on their lovely rescuer than on the women themselves now.

NiceTabard · 07/05/2013 22:40

waffly do you really believe there are people on this thread who would rather these women were being raped and beaten tonight?

WafflyVersatile · 07/05/2013 22:45

Depends, are you suggesting people on this thread are happy they've spent 10 years up until today imprisoned, raped and beaten?

NiceTabard · 07/05/2013 23:04

No, I just find it odd to describe it as a "good news story all round".

"Good news stories" are usually the ones at the end of the news about pandas mating or a tree being saved or something. Or some kind of near miss where people could have been hurt but won't.

It's just not "good news all round" to me. It's a mixture of thank god they've been found and utter sadness at what they must have been through and concern about what the future holds and hope that they will be OK.

Certainly I would not rather they were being beaten and raped tonight and I'm at a bit of a loss as to why you would level that accusation at people who simply don't feel unreserved joy on hearing this story.

WafflyVersatile · 07/05/2013 23:11

I'm not doing that any more than you are levelling accusations that people are happy they've spent 10 years before today as they have, because they are joyful at today's news. Are you doing that?

Today's news was good news. You're the one that ''can't feel happy about the story at all''. That's not any joy, let alone unreserved.

My, and I imagine other's, joy is reserved by the knowledge that they have been suffering the last 10 years. But I'm still happy with today's good news.

NiceTabard · 07/05/2013 23:13

No I am saying that it is odd to describe this as a "good news story all round".

Would you describe it that way? Really?

And you seriously think that people who find this story upsetting rather than joyful, would prefer if they hadn't been found? I mean, really?

NiceTabard · 07/05/2013 23:15

creighton said it was a "good news story all round"

I said that was a really odd and inaccurate way of looking at it.

you said I would rather they were being beaten and raped tonight.

There are some weird attitudes on this thread.

It is unequivocally NOT a good news story all round.

WafflyVersatile · 07/05/2013 23:24

I don't get how you can't get that 3 women, thought dead were found alive is not good news.

You said you could not be joyful. I said that could because, whatever happened yesterday and the day before and before and before, it will not be happening tonight.

NiceTabard · 07/05/2013 23:29

It is good news.

It is not "good news all round" which is what I found an odd comment. To me that means no downsides, just happy all the way. I was surprised at the poster who said that.

SarahAndFuck · 07/05/2013 23:50

I don't think that poster was suggesting for one moment that the ten years those women spent locked up was good news.

She's commenting on the rescue and the particular news clip on this thread of the man who helped to rescue them, and that particular part of the story is good news, good that he and the other people overheard Amanda Berry, good that he decided to help rather than decide it was none of his business, good that he was able to get her out, give her his phone, wait with her until more help arrived and good that he then gave the police a description of the car that helped them capture the man who owned the house.

All of that is good news all around. I think you are being unfair to suggest she meant it was good news those women spent ten years locked away when it's obvious to everyone else, when she has actually clarified the point for you, that she's talking specifically about the rescue and the fact that the women are alive and now safe.

Tenacity · 08/05/2013 03:42

That man was definitely awesome!
Awesome for doing something a lot of people wouldn't do.
Even here on MN, a lot of posters would not get involved in a domestic matter, in case of danger.
It's really nice that there are still some decent people, who would potentially put their neck on the line for others.

creighton · 08/05/2013 07:09

sarah, thanks, as i clarified in my second post, people are taking 5 minutes to be happy. questions are already being asked about how the women held captive for 10 years in a crowded neighbourhood. yesterday was a short time of relief before the hard questions were asked. how hard is that to understand?

NiceTabard · 08/05/2013 07:54

Plenty of posters are suggesting, for more than one moment, that I personally would be happier if these women were still being brutalised.

Given the fact that I can't find room to feel anything more than relief - I can't feel joy because I can't stop thinking about what has been happening with them - that seems a mean comment.

Still if that is really what people think then that's up to them I guess. You don't know me and so if you want to believe it makes me happy when people are subjected to horrendous abuse then I suppose I just have to go along with that.

SarahAndFuck · 08/05/2013 09:23

"Plenty of posters are suggesting, for more than one moment, that I personally would be happier if these women were still being brutalised."

No, they are not.

chocoluvva · 08/05/2013 10:37

Mr Ramsay came across to me as being in a state of shock. I'd imagine if you'd been involved in something as extraordinary as that you would be explaining, 'Well, I was doing x/y ordinary, run of the mill activity when....'

He also explained that he had previously had his suspicions about the house but was told that it was okay. So he must have had very mixed feelings - I told you so, but also regret that he didn't follow up his suspicions.

Booyhoo · 08/05/2013 10:59

"The captors daughter, ran away from home when pregnant, now doing a 25 stretch, MH issues, stabbed her own baby and commit suicide."

how is she doing a 25 year sentence if she killed herself? Confused

as for tabard's comment

i am happy that 3 women and a little girl didn't spend last night in captivity. i'm happy they weren't raped or beaten or starved last night.

i'm not happy about what they've been through over the last ten years but yes- it is a reason to celebrate that they have been released from their physical prison and hopefully reunited with their families. i am happy about that.

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