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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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to think the NHS needs to sort this out?

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ruledbyheart · 17/04/2013 11:40

Took DC1 today to have his MMR jab after receipt a letter from the NHS stating he needs it, after waiting over an hour because they are running late I get told he can't have the jab as he should have had it last year and they are unsure whether he has had it or not as they lost his notes.

I have no record of whether he had them or not as like I told them plenty of times his red book went missing in our house move (same area) last year.

They can't double dose him and can't tell me where his previous notes are to see if he needs it, but obviously if he did have them why would the NHS send me a letter stating he needs it?

AIBU to think the NHS are incompetent for losing his notes in the first place and some one needs to find out whats happening so he doesn't either endup unvaccinated or with a double dose?

DC1 also has a lot of medical history in these notes due to a recurrent illness that they now have no record of so if he needs medical treatment for this again they can't say what has already been tried etc.

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lyndie · 17/04/2013 12:37

I'm in Scotland but after each vaccination we get a letter a bit like a payslip that documents all their vaccinations. I keep them in a box file with the red books and other health stuff. So they is a way of recording it all centrally but maybe they don't do that where you live. I would go back and speak to your GP if you're not sure, maybe they can chase it up for you. And maybe ask for a list of what they have had for your own records.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 17/04/2013 12:39

I think in alot of cases in alot of businesses and professions that its often the case that the left arm doesn't know what the right arm is doing. Only takes a temp to mis file something.... I've lost count of how many times results have take. Far longer than first said. And god I've spoken to someone before and having seen then that day they don't recall even seeing me. . If you can remember how long ago he had his last injections the time scale alone could help narrow down if he's had it.
That's the golden age of computers unfortunately, if its not on the system everyone's screwed.

skippedtheripeoldmango · 17/04/2013 12:40

OP - you are not a useless mother - it sounds like you've had a lot going on in your life. People do lose things and people do forget things - and when life has been disruptive and frightening these things are easier lost/forgotten because other things (like staying safe from imminent danger) take priority.

ClayDavis · 17/04/2013 12:47

How is this the fault of the NHS as an organisation? Surely its the fault of your doctor's surgery not the NHS.

Softlysoftly · 17/04/2013 14:46

Aldiwhore I feel your pain on that one, after a bout of recent hospiitalization the DD's and I are having testing for TB exposure.

The dds have not had the BCG so I am worried. My mother cannot remember if I have or not, meaning the test MAY show positive for TB when actually its positive for the vaccine. Cue lots of tests to determine if my asthma and flu is actually TB, I can feel it looming on the horizon!

PreciousPuddleduck · 17/04/2013 15:27

YABU. I know all vaccinations my DD has had and keep the red book stored safely. The MMR is the only vaccine they receive just after their first bday so not exactly difficult to remember!!
Though I suppose it's easier to blame others...

KobayashiMaru · 17/04/2013 15:33

I know 2 of mine had the BCG and 1 didn't, but I couldn't tell you what vaccinations each of them had when. They've had all they were meant to, thats all I know. I don't even know what a red book is.

skippedtheripeoldmango · 17/04/2013 15:41

Puddleduck - you did read the part about the OP having to hastily move...to keep herself and her DC safe (presumably because they were in some sort of DV situation)? If the OP had been suffering a lot of domestic troubles then considering the situation don't you think that forgetting things might not be too hard to do?

I cant' remember my DC vaccinations - I had awful PND, an unsupportive abusive H, recurrent insomnia. oh and we moved several times in a short number of years - two of those times to a new country.

I fortunately have electronic copies of my DC records - if it wasn't for those I wouldn't remember when DC had what - all I do remember is that I turned up for all of the appointments required for vaccinations because DC wasn't' allowed into school in one particular country without them.

You're being very judgemental of the OP.

maddening · 17/04/2013 15:54

have you spoken to your old surgery? I think even if they transfer them they are obliged to retain their own copy? (my dad is a dentist for example and has to keep his records for a certain period).

has your dc started any nursery at all - they usually ask you to tell them what vaccines they have had - you may have copied it down for them?

no - it shouldn't have happened this way but I don't think you can slam the whole nhs for one issue like this.

once you get the info back it might be worth getting your own records back together.

TimothyClaypoleLover · 17/04/2013 16:17

The MMR is more memorable IMO. Can you really not remember him having it after his first birthday? Can't say that I specifically remember absolutely everything my DC have been vaccinated against but I do remember the MMR.

SorrelForbes · 17/04/2013 16:19

I think even if they transfer them they are obliged to retain their own copy Yes, the old GP surgery should have it on their IT system and if they don't then the CHID local to the surgery will have the info.

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ruledbyheart · 17/04/2013 16:23

Maddening thats my plan I know my records should be kept upto date, unfortunately the only reason I was transferred was because the old surgery shut down so can't ask them.
Nursery didn't ask neither did his school so don't think they would know.

He had the vaccination at 13mths old but apparently was due to have one at 3 yrs but due to everything else happening at the time I can't for the life of me remember what I did/didn't do and obviously now have no record.

Yes its easy to remember but with 3dc under 5 that's a lot of jabs and at the timeI had moreimportant things to keep track of unfortunately not something I can discuss on here.

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maddening · 17/04/2013 18:55

Even when my dad retires he has to retain his patient records - for 40 years or until he dies so although they have shut they may have everything stored - since it is their muck up then you can reasonably demand that they sort it.

It is likely the vacs at 13mths is the mmr - unless you would have objected?

Ask your pct who in the old surgery would be in charge of the notes etc?

maddening · 17/04/2013 19:00

13 mths is mmr 1st dosw qbs pcv.

Also - what triggered the hospital letter? It is like a separate system to the gp - my hospital booked my ds' appt with the gp and the gp lets them know if you fail the gp lets the hospital know and they rebook and write to you - so possibly his hospital records will be available?

SorrelForbes · 17/04/2013 19:58

The vac invitation letters come from the CHID and are triggered by the dates of previous injections.

crashdoll · 17/04/2013 20:03

YABU. The NHS as a whole is not responsible, your GP surgery is partly responsible as are you.

CandidaDoyle · 29/07/2013 15:25

Please could you delete all messages by me. Really worried about being outted by the channel 4 reported

lljkk · 29/07/2013 15:41

Zombie... and Annie, you need to contact MNHQ direct.

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