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To laugh at the UKIP party political broadcast

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FreudiansSlipper · 15/04/2013 18:39

just switched on the news to be confronted by a London cab driver (stating that he does not want foreigners human rights put above those of this country) and token Asian man (business man wanting more support for business not our tax going to Brussels)

could it have been more predictable Grin

on a serious note Nigel Farage should not be written off

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SuffolkNWhat · 25/04/2013 21:36

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Takingbackmonday · 25/04/2013 21:40

Nope

But I support flat tax and grammar schools

Takingbackmonday · 25/04/2013 21:42

Slow - 1) stop reading the Grauny 2) that post is too silly to break down

We are not dangerous racists; we want an Australian immigration system and a democratic gov

tilder · 25/04/2013 22:26

You might want that takingbackmonday. Unfortunately ukip have a lot more policies than that and a large number are incredibly distasteful at best.

I don't read the guardian.

PeneloPeePitstop · 25/04/2013 23:10

Curious though how the UKIP supporters keep harking back to immigration, taxation etc yet won't be drawn on the less savoury sexist and discriminatory policies.

Or the segregation of a certain part of society. Bit grim, that.

Fecklessdizzy · 25/04/2013 23:46

Farage is a well-known fan of lap-dancing ... So he only objects to immigrants who work fully-clothed?

Ithinkineedtogrowapair · 25/04/2013 23:54

Oh man. There are just too many reasons not to vote UKIP - did you hear about the MEP Godfrey bloom, said women shouldn't go out to work because someone has to clean behind the fridge :-)

I am depressed by them because I watch what they do in Brussels - basically they could have an impact and actually direct policy/ amend it but all they do is vote "no" to stuff and go and get pissed (I can even direct you to the pub they use in brussels if you don't believe me!) while touching a very nice salary thank you.

They have fun value as eccentrics but really their policies are a total mess - beyond the immigrations stuff there's the not believing in climate change, opposition to maternity leave etc etc....

Lazyjaney · 26/04/2013 00:26

I have just watched Question Time, it was a turkey shoot for Farrage. The others seemed tired, ineffective, trapped in weasel wordland andvtheirvown ideologies, and just out of touch.

And I say that as someone who does not support UKIP. it really worries me. I see the same complacent arrogance on this thread TBH.

Ghostsgowoooh · 26/04/2013 00:56

jollygoose. I take it you don't have a disabled child then? Have you read any of their policies or taken time to actually look at what they are?

Or are you a man?

I'd be straight out of this country if ukip ever got in. I'd rather take my chances with condems and that's saying something.

You do sound rather thick with your 'I have no negative feelings towards immigrants but....' .you've contradicted yourself love Grin

Ghostsgowoooh · 26/04/2013 01:00

Disclaimer with the man sentence, I should have added or are you a man with a sexist view point. This site really needs an edit button.

Fargo86 · 26/04/2013 01:01

I hope UKIP win some seats in the next election. None of the main three parties care about WWC people anymore.

AmberLeaf · 26/04/2013 01:54

WWC people

What are they then?

ComposHat · 26/04/2013 02:09

white working class I believe.

Fargo how will massively increasing the amount of tax lower earners pay in order to give a tax cut to the wealthy or cutting off opportunities in higher education help the working class (white or otherwise?)

AmberLeaf · 26/04/2013 02:20

Yeah I guessed that, But I wanted fargo to write the words just to be clear.

ComposHat · 26/04/2013 02:41

sorry!

Lazyjaney · 26/04/2013 07:25

IMO UKIP is being far smarter than people on this thread realise, they are fighting on issues where the main parties are out of step with the electorate and/or tied up in their own ideological knots.

I don't like them but this complacent, arrogant dissmissal seen here is dangerous IMO, most of the issues they are targeting have been poorly managed by the main parties so far.

Dawndonna · 26/04/2013 07:46

Flatpack
That comment was completely unwarranted. How dare you.
I have reported it.

Toadinthehole · 26/04/2013 08:41

WCs? Yes, a serious issue - I hate paying.

On a more serious note, I hope UKIP do well, because every vote they get will be one less for the Tories.

Toadinthehole · 26/04/2013 08:42

... and hence split the right-wing vote.

ApocalypseThen · 26/04/2013 10:47

I see the same argument - that the rest of us need to pander to the thick, the terminally ill-informed, the people who believe gutter press adult comic scaremongering - getting wheeled out again even in the midst of a measles epidemic caused by exactly that kind if boneheaded chumpery.

I'm certainly tired of pandering to these clowns.

infamouspoo · 26/04/2013 11:14

Raising taxes to 31%. Bet they havent mentioned that outloud when they trot out what the right wingers want to hear!

flatpackhamster · 26/04/2013 12:02

infamouspoo

Raising taxes to 31%. Bet they havent mentioned that outloud when they trot out what the right wingers want to hear!

You already pay around that amount of income tax. 21% income tax + 11% NI. Combining the two in to a single income tax would reduce the complexity of the tax system and make it clearer to people how much tax they pay.

ComposHat

Fargo how will massively increasing the amount of tax lower earners pay in order to give a tax cut to the wealthy or cutting off opportunities in higher education help the working class (white or otherwise?)

Lower earners wouldn't pay more tax since the tax-free personal allowance would rise to the level of the minimum wage.

Dawndonna

Flatpack
That comment was completely unwarranted. How dare you.
I have reported it.

It's a bit late to race for the moral high ground, considering the abuse you heap upon me every time you post. I was making a satirical point about your loaded question. But report away, if that's what you want.

Reasonrules · 26/04/2013 12:18

Be honest

Do you believe in uncontrolled immigration?

If you do that is a perfectly valid point of view from which you can put forward logical and coherent arguments.

On the other hand if you think there needs to be some border control on the amount of immigration can you explain why you feel this is needed, (and why you are not a racist?)

Because if you take the second viewpoint then surely the debate can only be about what nature of controls there should be in place and any accusation of being racist or hating people can only be spurious outrage can it not?

As the Delphic oracle in Ancient Greece put it "First of all Know Thyself"

PeneloPeePitstop · 26/04/2013 12:29

I still feel it's dangerous to focus on immigration. Everyone knows that's what UKIP stand for, it's well known they want to withdraw from the EU.

What I think needs more attention is their other policies, for example the abolition of maternity leave and segregation of learning disabled people, or abolition of the equalities act which protects against all manner of isms.

They also want to ban head coverings!

skippedtheripeoldmango · 26/04/2013 12:48

Thank you for this thread. As someone who knew little about the UKIP (but wondered if they might be basically BNP in disguise) I had been thinking about actually looking them up.

Lots of information here and great links - looks like the UKIP are actually very like the fundamentalist right in the USA.

What's their policy on things like abortion/contraception?