riots over margaret thachers death!

[x2boys]

AIBU to be thinking if you were not even alive when margaret thatcher was in power why would you be partying over an old womens death?Yes I realise people have very strong feelings over her alleged legacy, but Labour was in power for nearly fourteen years and did nt right her alleged wrongs, its my personal opinon that the Blair/Brown government did far more damage to communities then maggie ever did but thats just a personal opinion.

[x2boys]

Back again are we limited period i,m getting my riot gear ready as i type [which is maybe why i dont have coherent sentences dellboy] i,m really excited now by the prospect of riots!

[limitedperiodonly]

Further to that, I admired this comment from Oliver Tambo's son Dali.

'Normally we say that when one of us goes, the ANC ancestors will meet them at the pearly gates and give them a standing ovation. I think it's quite likely that when Margaret Thatcher reaches the pearly gates, the ANC will boycott the occasion.'

So amusingly disdainful.

btw I'm listening atm to the list of people invited to the funeral. If that 'grubby little terrorist' Mandela was well enough to travel, I doubt he'd be attending.

But I'd really like to know whether Jacob Zuma has been invited. Not because I like him, but because as the head of a state we quite like now, surely he'd be considered.

He sent his condolences but I don't know whether we're going to see him.

Maybe so. Or maybe like those signs in pubs, South Africa are saying: 'Don't ask for credit, as refusal often offends.'

[limitedperiodonly]

Good for you x2boys

[Madamecastafiore]

Bloody hell, the great unwashed found something to do with their time again? I think anyone who gets charged with a public order offence should have all benefits stopped immediately.

Another thing that pisses me off. Likely that you will lose your job if you commit a criminal offence but they don't stop your benefits!

[Scrazy]

I think she might be quite pleased about rioting tbh. Didn't she consult with Cameron about how to cope with the riots. They usually use rioting as a stick to beat people with in their press. It happened with the students and it will be the same whenever riots happen.

[ThePathanKhansAmnesiac]

Goodness OP, do try to remain calm and stop the hyperbole. You sound unhinged tbh.

[lisaro]

Unfortunately George Galloway IS an MP for part of Bradford, although he seemed to forget as he tweeted to thank Blackburn for electing him in, which obviously would have been his next target market if he'd failed in Bradford.

[Dawndonna]

Bloody hell, the great unwashed found something to do with their time again? I think anyone who gets charged with a public order offence should have all benefits stopped immediately.

In the times today, an academic study carried out by Sheffield Uni points out that the new rules on benefits affects very few Tory areas and makes a more than significant difference to many people.

I am disgusted by people that call the unemployed/carers/disabled the great unwashed. But then it's safe here, isn't it. It's a forum from which the realities of life are hidden, and you are safe in your metaphorical ivory tower.
The people who may or may not riot have been disenfranchised for a considerable period of time. They run from people with little education to the intelligensia. People who have had few chances because of where they come from and few life opportunities, to people who have had good jobs and nice homes and have been hit by sickness and disability.
That ivory tower in which you sit and pontificate about the so called great unwashed may well have dodgy foundations, do be careful.

[Madamecastafiore]

Did I mention unemployed, carers, disabled???? No.

This forum is impossible to actually post on about benefits and the entitled without someone yelling the words disabled, cater or unemployed and if that is you argument then it's pathetic.

I have nothing against those that care for others, in fact working on the nhs have great respect for them, as well as the disabled as working in mental health most of our patients are classed as disabled and people who are unemployed are not generally the great unwashed but the ones that think it is ok to cause distruction, fear and social unrest whilst holding their hands out expecting that society to financially supports them makes me sick.

[Dawndonna]

No you didn't mention them. You used a generic term. Perhaps if you had been more specific in your original posting you wouldn't have been pulled on it. As I said, Ivory Tower.

[DreamsTurnToGoldDust]

The great unwashed? please clarify are you really using that term?

OP, google The Belgrano, its very interesting.

[CogitoErgoSometimes]

YANBU.... Just proves that the kind of idiot that riots is not politically or socially motivated and is just a feckless chancer opportunistically hoping to rob some trainers...

[Dawndonna]

Half of you lot frighten me more than any rioter.

[herethereandeverywhere]

Can I add collusion with police version of events at Hillsborough to the list please slug?

[limitedperiodonly]

Yes cogito, but have there been any riots yet other than in the fevered imagination of x2boys?

[samandi]

It's nothing to do with Margaret Thatcher or her policies. Just morons looking for an excuse.

[Dawndonna]

a) Not a moron.

b) Don't need an excuse.

Unfortunately not able to attend any sort of demonstration, but as an academic, I'm well aware of the facts and the legacy.

[DreamsTurnToGoldDust]

Theres a hell of a lot of morons on MN at the moment.

On Wednesday people will be protesting which is their democratic right.

[ParadiseChick]

Hello.

Does anyone have any actual links to any actual riots that have been reported?

[ParadiseChick]

Yes. Some people are so thick or right wing or pearl clutchy not to know the difference between a protest and a riot.

[limitedperiodonly]

An excuse to do what samandi?

Surely not rioting, because despite the OP's excitedness, that hasn't happened, has it?

So would you care to explain why people shouldn't raise their objections to the policies of a major political figure?

[sparklekitty]

I'm loosing my DH on sat night and weds as they are worried about riots/violent protests :(

I was def not a fan of Maggie raving lefty here but I do think some people are going way over the top and actually its over shadowing the proper discussion about her politics and what they have led too.

mainly pissed as we were having a take away and a nice night together on Sat

[limitedperiodonly]

Is your DH a police officer sparklekitty?

If so, and he's rostered on the day of the funeral, or has had leave cancelled, then it's his job.

In your opinion what is the proper discussion of her politics and what they've led to?

And if your DH is a police officer, how would he say the police have been treated since 1979, when there was enormous police recruitment and incentives, compared to the last few years when there have been proposed 20 or 25 per cent redundancies?

Apologies if your DH isn't a police officer.

[x2boys]

limited period i dont think you quite understand sarcasm my comments to you are in reply to your rude original comment about about my apparently very excited comments about riots, please read the dictionary it will give you a very good deffinition of sarcasm , dreams if you actually read my post about the belgrano you willl realise i did point out i knew very little about the belgrano .As for being unhinged i dont think iam in fact as i work on a psychiatric intensive care unit i have to be very hinged anyway back to my original point forget the riots limited period i just find it distasteful to be dancing and singing about the death of an old lady yeah i know there is lack of punctuation sentence structure etc but i just cant be bothered.