riots over margaret thachers death!

[x2boys]

AIBU to be thinking if you were not even alive when margaret thatcher was in power why would you be partying over an old womens death?Yes I realise people have very strong feelings over her alleged legacy, but Labour was in power for nearly fourteen years and did nt right her alleged wrongs, its my personal opinon that the Blair/Brown government did far more damage to communities then maggie ever did but thats just a personal opinion.

[limitedperiodonly]

limited period i dont think you quite understand sarcasm

[x2boys]

you see weegie i worked on a dementia wardfor six years its an awful vile condtion i say condtion as there are loads of different types of dementia and as i have pointed out i was only sixteen when she left downing street my parents however worked for the gas board and when it was privitised they did very well out of it and took redundancy as they wre both midfifties [ got a great package too ] and then got a great pension that said i wouldnt wish dementia on anyone and this dancing on peoples graves thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth!

[weegiemum]

As a student in the late 1980s both born and educated in Scotland, I went on a few anti poll tax protests, as well as the Reclaim The Night marches (first year social science student!).

I never rioted, I never saw any rioting. I don't celebrate Thatcher's death, but I don't mourn it, except in a generic way:


Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

I feel sorry for her family - my Gran had incipient dementia when she died at 83. My other Grandma is 92 and doesn't even recognise her own reflection.

But Thatcherism defined my childhood and youth - first at a primary school that lost so many teachers of specialist subjects, then as a young adult living in Scotland and just into 3rd year at university, I am truly one of "Thatcher's Children". Though I disagreed with almost everything, that disagreement in itself comes from her. She made me a socialist.

My thoughts go out to her family (though, given her son's antics overhe years, I do sometimes wonder how good a mother she was?). But I can't say I'm sorry to see her go. But I won't be protesting this time.

[x2boys]

limited period i dont think you quite understand sarcasm my comments to you are in reply to your rude original comment about about my apparently very excited comments about riots, please read the dictionary it will give you a very good deffinition of sarcasm , dreams if you actually read my post about the belgrano you willl realise i did point out i knew very little about the belgrano .As for being unhinged i dont think iam in fact as i work on a psychiatric intensive care unit i have to be very hinged anyway back to my original point forget the riots limited period i just find it distasteful to be dancing and singing about the death of an old lady yeah i know there is lack of punctuation sentence structure etc but i just cant be bothered.

[limitedperiodonly]

Is your DH a police officer sparklekitty?

If so, and he's rostered on the day of the funeral, or has had leave cancelled, then it's his job.

In your opinion what is the proper discussion of her politics and what they've led to?

And if your DH is a police officer, how would he say the police have been treated since 1979, when there was enormous police recruitment and incentives, compared to the last few years when there have been proposed 20 or 25 per cent redundancies?

Apologies if your DH isn't a police officer.

[sparklekitty]

I'm loosing my DH on sat night and weds as they are worried about riots/violent protests :(

I was def not a fan of Maggie raving lefty here but I do think some people are going way over the top and actually its over shadowing the proper discussion about her politics and what they have led too.

mainly pissed as we were having a take away and a nice night together on Sat

[limitedperiodonly]

An excuse to do what samandi?

Surely not rioting, because despite the OP's excitedness, that hasn't happened, has it?

So would you care to explain why people shouldn't raise their objections to the policies of a major political figure?

[ParadiseChick]

Yes. Some people are so thick or right wing or pearl clutchy not to know the difference between a protest and a riot.

[ParadiseChick]

Hello.

Does anyone have any actual links to any actual riots that have been reported?

[DreamsTurnToGoldDust]

Theres a hell of a lot of morons on MN at the moment.

On Wednesday people will be protesting which is their democratic right.

[Dawndonna]

a) Not a moron.

b) Don't need an excuse.

Unfortunately not able to attend any sort of demonstration, but as an academic, I'm well aware of the facts and the legacy.

[samandi]

It's nothing to do with Margaret Thatcher or her policies. Just morons looking for an excuse.

[limitedperiodonly]

Yes cogito, but have there been any riots yet other than in the fevered imagination of x2boys?

[herethereandeverywhere]

Can I add collusion with police version of events at Hillsborough to the list please slug?

[Dawndonna]

Half of you lot frighten me more than any rioter.

[CogitoErgoSometimes]

YANBU.... Just proves that the kind of idiot that riots is not politically or socially motivated and is just a feckless chancer opportunistically hoping to rob some trainers...

[DreamsTurnToGoldDust]

The great unwashed? please clarify are you really using that term?

OP, google The Belgrano, its very interesting.

[Dawndonna]

No you didn't mention them. You used a generic term. Perhaps if you had been more specific in your original posting you wouldn't have been pulled on it. As I said, Ivory Tower.

[Madamecastafiore]

Did I mention unemployed, carers, disabled???? No.

This forum is impossible to actually post on about benefits and the entitled without someone yelling the words disabled, cater or unemployed and if that is you argument then it's pathetic.

I have nothing against those that care for others, in fact working on the nhs have great respect for them, as well as the disabled as working in mental health most of our patients are classed as disabled and people who are unemployed are not generally the great unwashed but the ones that think it is ok to cause distruction, fear and social unrest whilst holding their hands out expecting that society to financially supports them makes me sick.

[Dawndonna]

Bloody hell, the great unwashed found something to do with their time again? I think anyone who gets charged with a public order offence should have all benefits stopped immediately.

In the times today, an academic study carried out by Sheffield Uni points out that the new rules on benefits affects very few Tory areas and makes a more than significant difference to many people.

I am disgusted by people that call the unemployed/carers/disabled the great unwashed. But then it's safe here, isn't it. It's a forum from which the realities of life are hidden, and you are safe in your metaphorical ivory tower.
The people who may or may not riot have been disenfranchised for a considerable period of time. They run from people with little education to the intelligensia. People who have had few chances because of where they come from and few life opportunities, to people who have had good jobs and nice homes and have been hit by sickness and disability.
That ivory tower in which you sit and pontificate about the so called great unwashed may well have dodgy foundations, do be careful.

[lisaro]

Unfortunately George Galloway IS an MP for part of Bradford, although he seemed to forget as he tweeted to thank Blackburn for electing him in, which obviously would have been his next target market if he'd failed in Bradford.

[ThePathanKhansAmnesiac]

Goodness OP, do try to remain calm and stop the hyperbole. You sound unhinged tbh.

[Scrazy]

I think she might be quite pleased about rioting tbh. Didn't she consult with Cameron about how to cope with the riots. They usually use rioting as a stick to beat people with in their press. It happened with the students and it will be the same whenever riots happen.

[Madamecastafiore]

Bloody hell, the great unwashed found something to do with their time again? I think anyone who gets charged with a public order offence should have all benefits stopped immediately.

Another thing that pisses me off. Likely that you will lose your job if you commit a criminal offence but they don't stop your benefits!