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AIBU?

riots over margaret thachers death!

78 replies

x2boys · 10/04/2013 10:10

AIBU to be thinking if you were not even alive when margaret thatcher was in power why would you be partying over an old womens death?Yes I realise people have very strong feelings over her alleged legacy, but Labour was in power for nearly fourteen years and did nt right her alleged wrongs, its my personal opinon that the Blair/Brown government did far more damage to communities then maggie ever did but thats just a personal opinion.

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limitedperiodonly · 10/04/2013 11:41

It's hasn't been reported much tigerswallowtail because sadly for the media who've got loads of people on riot watch it hasn't kicked off.

Still a week to go before the funeral. There's always hope for those headlines.

x2boys · 10/04/2013 11:52

in fact limited period yeah gosh i,m so excited about rioting i could take my three and six yr old with me looting never to young for a criminal record eh? we could burn and smash peoples hard earned buissnesses to the ground and scare the hell out of people just for fun sounds great ooh must look at my rosta and organise it for my next day off gosh wont the kids have fun !!!!!!!!!!!

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x2boys · 10/04/2013 12:06

and of course it wouldnt matter about me being struck off the NMC register either limited period because i remember during the last riots people seemed more concerned about the rioters lossing their benefits then people losing their homes and buissnesss so i would nt have to work would i because what about my poor kids its not their fault i would be such a moral degenerate they would still need feeding so i would probably just walk away with a slap on the wrist and then be entitled to claim benefits sound like a plan?

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AllYoursBabooshka · 10/04/2013 12:06

I have that old familiar feeling that I'm missing summit...

What's up seeker?

AllYoursBabooshka · 10/04/2013 12:07

X post!

AllYoursBabooshka · 10/04/2013 12:08

Nope. Wrong thread entirely.

How embarrassing.

KateDillington · 10/04/2013 12:12

A few smashed windows and this sort of drinking in the streets is normal on ANY saturday night. It's just the Mail trying to find a story. Not a riot!! Most of these people celebrating are almost at retirement age anyway!

x2boys · 10/04/2013 12:18

anyway limited period i,m afraid i,m so excited about the prospect of a riot i shall have to and prepare [actually i,m on an afternoon shift] but not for long eh gosh its more exciting than xmas!!!!!!!!!!

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HappyTurquoise · 10/04/2013 12:21

I am praying for snow, ice, hail and rolling thunder to that tune we used to sing St Francis's prayer to in Sunday School. I will be all cosy watching the TV and heckling.

HappyTurquoise · 10/04/2013 12:22

I mean for the funeral itself, not in general.

Tau · 10/04/2013 12:45

I'm not into rioting, and I do think it's a bit dodgy to throw a party over this senile old woman's death.

But! She was not just an senile old woman. She was an important political figure, and that is the death we are talking about.

Now that she kicked the bucket, Thatcher is being hailed by many, and there will be a respectful wake for her in the cabinet etc.
I see amongst my non-British friends and relatives that in foreign media the praise is way more prominent than the negative remarks.
That's all nice for those who liked her, but there are many who didn't.
And they need to have a good, clear say as well. Just because she is dead doesn't mean everyone has to sit back demurely as if it was all okay what she did. It wasn't. And her ideas are still - or again- very strongly prevalent in this society.

My son's family is Welsh. They deeply resented Thatcher and her politics. Still do. Peoples' lives and communities were destroyed by Thatcher's decisions. People who protested were violently oppressed under her reign. Those people were not heard then, but that doesn't mean they should not be heard now.
Sadly, the majority of those people are still poor and not influential, so it is hard for them to be heard. Of course loads of them are dead or too old to do much, but their descendants may take over. And if they are not heard, and not valued, they may riot.
And of course they will then soon be joined by professional looters.

A method to limit the risk of big riots happening is to create a more equal society, where poor and vulnerable people also feel secure and valued instead of threatened and vilified. But the Tories are authoritarians, so the won't do that. Their solution to everything is more oppression and violence.

But all that aside: I don't think there'll be much rioting this time... but then again; where I live nothing every happens, so I'd think that, would I?

sashh · 10/04/2013 13:11

I was five when she came into power and sixteen when she left downing street so her policies did not affect me directly

Deregulating the banks?

Lack of affordable housing?

MRSA because hospital cleaners were sacked and contracts given to companies who were cheap, even though their quotes meant the hospital couldn't be cleaned properly?

Yep that doesn't affect you at all does it?

Jjou · 10/04/2013 13:43

There bloody wasn't any rioting in Liverpool! Leave us out of it...

x2boys · 11/04/2013 12:23

yes her policies did not directly affect me sashh labours however as an nhs worker for nearly 20 years front line not sat in some cosy office have directly affected me i have seen them and there policies bring the nhs to there knees but thts a whole different story?!

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Abra1d · 11/04/2013 12:31

Deregulating the banks?----> She had been out of power for years and years when the banking crisis happened. Who was in power when the banking crisis happened? Labour.

Lack of affordable housing?--->Caused largely by an increase in marriage break-ups and people never marrying/not co-habiting, meaning more houses were needed, and by a large increase in population in the south of England owing to immigration during the Blair/Brown years.

MRSA because hospital cleaners were sacked and contracts given to companies who were cheap, even though their quotes meant the hospital couldn't be cleaned properly?---> Caused by hospitals not managing their contracts properly and a failure by nursing management to train nurses to make sure things were being done properly.

delboysfileofax · 11/04/2013 12:40

x2boys- judging by your lack of coherent sentence structure, you were clearly effected by her educational policies

x2boys · 11/04/2013 12:46

actually no dellboy just lazy typing but very mature comment give you a little kick does it making nasty jibes prhaps you need to get out more and mix with people more matue than your self not a sigle full stop or capital letter but what the hell

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x2boys · 11/04/2013 12:47

oh and i even spelt single wrong! oh and mature

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Feenie · 11/04/2013 13:06

A 'friend' has posted the following on my Facebook page:

She was a murderer ! She was a mass murderer ! She protected mass murderers ! She funded mass murderers !

I understand the Pinochet reference, but have no idea what the rest refers to. Can anyone enlighten me?

DreamsTurnToGoldDust · 11/04/2013 13:22

I presume the murderer part means the Belgrano?

x2boys · 11/04/2013 13:35

but was ent the belgrano the argetininan ship she sunk [ i could be wrong and i have had a few roastings for being wrong so feel free to roast me again ] o0r the armed forces sunk that were invading the falkland islands? better than in invading a country that has nothing to do with us and killing millions like that narcacissst blair sorry if my punctuation and spelling is offending you again dellboy!

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slug · 11/04/2013 15:42

Or the murderers could refer to any of the following, all of whom she supported:

Pol Pot (death toll and estimated 3 million)
Augusto Pinochet (3,000 dead, 29,000 tortured, 1,500 disappeared)
Saddam Hussein (100,000 Kurds as a starting point)
Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (the SAVAK were such fluffy bunnies)
Hosni Mubarak
King Fahd of Saudi Arabia (still beheading women for being raped and hanging men for being gay)
P.W.Botha (because let's face it, Biko just threw himself down those stairs)
General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq
General Suharto ("One of our very best and most valuable friends" she called him as Kopassus gunned down civilians with British supplied machine guns)

jetsetlil · 11/04/2013 15:56

delboysfileofax - that was a snide and spiteful comment.

grovel · 11/04/2013 16:00

Well, Delboy spelt affected wrong.

limitedperiodonly · 11/04/2013 16:09

One of our very best and most valuable friends" she called him as Kopassus gunned down civilians with British supplied machine guns

slug I was going to answer this question, but cba to research the details, so thanks for doing it.

The point I was going to make was all leaders get into bed with unpleasant characters for trade or strategic defence reasons, so it's an unavoidable part of leadership that we can't blame her for specifically.

But most of them aren't given to making such sickening statements of support. So thanks again for reminding me of that special part of her character.

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