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Should I say anything to the Cub leader? (Concerns Fb)

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FuelledByChocolate · 29/03/2013 12:23

Ds1&2 are 9 and 10 years old and go to Cubs/Scouts.

I was flicking through fb yesterday when I noticed a photo on my newsfeed of my son. Someone on my friends list had commented on it so it had come up as news or something. I had a look and it had been posted by the Cub leader, my ds was in uniform and it looked like it had been taken at a camp or activity day. I had a look through the rest of the photos and there are quite a few of both my sons, and a number of the other Cubs. There are 3 years or more worth of photos of my dc.

I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with it, but don't know if I am being unreasonable as I have photos of them on my page. It is the cub leaders private page, not a club one. Would you say anything?

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seeker · 29/03/2013 12:25

I wouldn't mind- but then I don't think there's anything wrong with sharing photographs. Others, probably most will disagree. Which means that she probably shouldn't be doing it, sadly.

zwischenzug · 29/03/2013 12:27

I agree it's a bit weird putting it on his private page. I wouldn't be entirely comfortable with it either.

piprabbit · 29/03/2013 12:28

When I fill in a permission slip for my DD to take part in Brownie activities, I always have to tick a box giving additional permission that her photo be taken and used.
Does your DS's cub group do anything similar? Perhaps they should.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 29/03/2013 12:28

Our scout group has a registration form on which you can opt out of having your DC's photos on any scout group website/fb. Personally, I don't see the harm, they are generally photos of cubs and scouts doing scouty things, not at all worrying. I think you should maybe comment to the scout group about photos on a private fb page, though. Ours are all on a Scout Group fb page/website.

raspberryroop · 29/03/2013 12:29

Sadly? dull comment - lots of very valid reasons why people wouldn't want their children's photo's on facebook. Adoption, DV, toxic family's etc

Montybojangles · 29/03/2013 12:30

Bit wierd that it's on his personal page, rather than a club page.

Bringmewineandcake · 29/03/2013 12:30

I think permission from the parents ought to be sought first, unless the person in question also has children in the same images?
Ywnbu to ask either for them to be removed, or no new images be added without your permission.

Sirzy · 29/03/2013 12:31

I don't see why they are on his personal page, any photos taken should be for use by the organisation not for personal use.

I am a youth leader (with a different organisation) and we have been given very clear instructions not to put photos of young people on personal Facebook pages (or be "friends" with them) which I think is sensible anyway

Knittingnovice · 29/03/2013 12:34

My DH is a scout leader and can't post photos of childless faces on his personal fb page so when we take our DC.'s we make sure there are no scouts in the pictures of them.

It is the same for me with my rainbow unit.

I would raise out with the leader in question.

Knittingnovice · 29/03/2013 12:35

Should say childrens faces

seeker · 29/03/2013 12:35

"Sadly? dull comment - lots of very valid reasons why people wouldn't want their children's photo's on facebook. Adoption, DV, toxic family's etc"

The OP will have signed a form when her children joined saying she was OK with pictures being taken, so those issues shouldn't be a factor here.

FuelledByChocolate · 29/03/2013 12:36

(Cub leader is female)

I don't think I've ever signed anything about photos but I think I wouldn't feel it was so odd if it was a group page or a specific scouting page but they are mixed it with all her family photos, holidays etc. I'm thinking its probably because Scouting is a big part of her life and she's proud of the cubs or something. There are more photos of my dc than any other, other cubs are pictured when standing next to my dc, my boys are seemingly the focus of the shot. It just feels strange. I don't particularly like the cub leader but its a clash of personality thing rather than her not being a nice person I think.

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EllenJanesthickerknickers · 29/03/2013 12:42

I think it would be worth a quiet word, scout groups do know that permission should be sought and as PP have commented, some DC may have good reasons, unknown to the cub leader, not to ave photos made public, like this.

raspberryroop · 29/03/2013 12:48

ooh look no permission slipped signed - so leader has no bloody idea of any parents/carers wishes ! Also can't ever envisage a permission slip that says 'picture to be used on PERSONAL facebook pages' As someone who has a few valid reason why I don't want picture of one of my kids available on the web, I find the 'I don't mind so no body else should' attitude stupid

FuelledByChocolate · 29/03/2013 12:52

Oh, I think I have worked out why Blush

I just looked through her friends list and she is friends with my exmil and co so probably knows my dc through her (I am divorced from their dad) so has possibly put them up because she feels she knows them out of cubs (if she does, I don't know, will ask dc) or something. Maybe she wanted to share the photos with exmil Confused

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EllenJanesthickerknickers · 29/03/2013 12:54

If they are in cubs' uniform and she is the cub leader, then, sorry, that's not like a family friend putting photos on their fb

Sirzy · 29/03/2013 12:59

That still doesn't make it ok, to put photos on personal Facebook is unprofessional and I would be suprised if the child protection policy didn't advice against it.

seeker · 29/03/2013 13:01

The crucial thing here is that no permission slip has been signed. This means that potentially children could have their pictures in the paper without their parents/carers knowing- a much bigger risk in terms of people seeing them who shouldn't, and the OP should certainly take this up with the Leader. Every scout/cub parent should have signed a form like that.

teacherandguideleader · 29/03/2013 13:09

My Guides' parents sign a slip giving permission for photos to be used on the internet however I wouldn't dream of putting their photos on my fb page! I am sure it is not allowed. I have pictures from events saved on my laptop which I occasionally show selected people (e.g. my mum and best friend who is a fellow teacher and guide leader) but I can control what people see. I think you should have a word, there may be some children whose identity needs protecting.

teacherandguideleader · 29/03/2013 13:14

PS - Guides is a big part of my life and I do put photos from events on fb, but not shots of the children. There may be the occasional leg or butt in view, but nothing that identifies a child.

exoticfruits · 29/03/2013 13:17

I don't put any photographs on FB unless I have asked the person. Most of my friends are not on FB and therefore I never put photos of them on there. I have a lot of photos, but they are mainly places and the few people that I know don't mind.
I do things now with Beaver groups, occasionally, and have a form to sign about photos-HOWEVER-that is only for publicity purposes and I would never use them in a personal way.

FuelledByChocolate · 29/03/2013 13:19

They are in full cub uniform on the photos (so are the other children in the photos) they are taken at cub events and she is also in uniform. I don't think her knowing exmil makes it ok to have the photos on there but at least it explains why she has them up (I think!)

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mercibucket · 29/03/2013 13:22

Are you sure you didn't sign a permission slip, though, as its usually a standard form as part of the registration process.
Not that it applies to private pages, which is not really appropriate, but just because some posters have leapt on it
Are you unhappy about the photos being online? If so, I'd message her to let her know, or speak to her at the next meet

mercibucket · 29/03/2013 13:22

Are you sure you didn't sign a permission slip, though, as its usually a standard form as part of the registration process.
Not that it applies to private pages, which is not really appropriate, but just because some posters have leapt on it
Are you unhappy about the photos being online? If so, I'd message her to let her know, or speak to her at the next meet

thezebrawearspurple · 29/03/2013 13:29

Nobody should be putting up pictures of other peoples kids without parental permission. Your putting up photos of your own kid, doesn't justify anyone else doing it! She is being extremely inappropriate here and may have images up of children whose parents don't want them on the web at all and are unaware of the fact.

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