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To think this is wrong re Council tax

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Dryjuice25 · 25/03/2013 14:24

I had a letter from the council to say now I will be paying council tax, whereas I didn't have to do this previously as I haven't got gainful employment. I have young children.I also have debts and I'm currently studying for exams.

I feel this is unfair and it's effectively a 10% benefit cut. Anyone agree? I have not seen this on the news so I think it's beingdone sneakily as this might cause an uproar with the unemployed who already live in poverty having their income cut this way whilst big corporations getaway with paying very litle or no tax at all due to various tax loopholes. I have 3 kids and a newborn. I get CTC two of the children and ex claim for one of the children. I am desperate for a job I could ask any mumsnetters to pm me with any flexible or child friendly job offers please and very angry to have my benefit cut in a sneaky way like this and there is nothng I can do about it.

Anyoone got any letters like this?AIBU to be angry about this? I don't mind paying for council tax although its a pain in the bum but dontexpect a tax demand on income support!!

Please flame me not

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 13:17

@ Coolar You sound like a very charming human being. Walk a mile in my shoes and you might not be spouting that vomit. It goes without saying that if you qualify for income support, you will get CTC, so didn't include that info on OP though in hindsight for someome who need all the obvious facts, I should have included it. How I chose to pay what I owe is nothing to do with your fucking business.

If you read what I wrote later, then it would have been clear as a blue sky even to a total lunatic that I have 3 dcs not 4 although I concede my post seems to imply 3 but had clarified that. You seem to have lost the purpose of the post totallty,so dont bother coming to post here again as you have nothing positive to say. You will never get the full picture of my life and (frankly I dont want unhelpful posts)how its been difficult since losing my job but now I have no intention of explaining the details to you because you're just nasty and judgemental.

Everyone that got the point of the post, thanks. This was meant to be not so hard hearted but

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 13:19

Anyone with a nasty post be warned that I didn't go past the first sentence as I will not waste my time and effort absorbing negative energy.

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NicknameTaken · 26/03/2013 13:22

cloudy, but why shouldn't someone use their redundancy money before they are eligible for benefits? I don't understand - you think she should get to keep her savings and still be subsidized by the taxpayer?

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Sirzy · 26/03/2013 13:22

So basically if anyone isn't saying "oh poor you how awful" then you are accusing them of being nasty?

Surely you can see how given you obviously have pretty decent savings, and you have 'bent' the truth about your actual income on this thread that some people may not have the greatest amounts of sympathy for your particular positon.

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 13:50

Sirzy, I was not bargaining for sympathy either, was just making a point. No truths were bent. Everything relevant was given upfront as far as I am concerned. You too missed the point of the thread,shame

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 13:53

Sirzy, and you obviously didnt read someofmy subsequent comments,which is a shame as it would have helped you make a useful comment if you at,must comment.

I said I had just laughed at myself on one of my responses. Is that enough for you?

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Sirzy · 26/03/2013 13:53

the point that you have savings, you have plans for a holiday, you get most of your rent paid for you but you still don't want pay a small amount of council tax?

I think it is you that is deliberatly missing the point a lot of people are making

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LineRunnyEgg · 26/03/2013 13:57

Going back to your original post, OP, yes the Government absolutely intended a 10% council tax benefit cut to happen, hence the 10% cut in the money they make available for council tax benefit; and yes it is a bit sneaky that the way they have done it is to pass the actual job of cutting on to councils.

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 14:03

Holiday plans not going ahead.Did you see my comment. If someone said they laughed at themselves, it means have got the point. I do see why some people reacted negatively, but nasty comments will not be tolerated by me. I just get the gist of the comment and I stop reading mid sentence! And at this point there is nothing left to say as everything has already been said and I have laughed at myself but still feel sympathy for those who will find paying that minimal amount a squeeze. Of course I will pay though I wouldn't volunteer to if thats still your problem Sirzy.

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expatinscotland · 26/03/2013 14:09

An indeterminate amount of kids, an indeterminate amount of savings, there's a lot of vagueness here.

Biscuit

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 14:15

Expat.Go back and read the whole thread you will find your answers

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IneedAsockamnesty · 26/03/2013 14:27

No she won't,what she will find is ramblings and nonsense

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TheCalvert · 26/03/2013 14:40

I've clearly wasted a lot of money on my education. Can't understand why OP is flipping out at people trying to help her.

Mental Biscuit.

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CoolaSchmoola · 26/03/2013 14:45

I don't need to walk a mile in your shoes OP... Last September my DH was made redundant, we lived overseas with his job so we also lost our home and I lost my job too - we went from dual income to no income and no home - with DC. We got on with it, we didn't bleat about how mean the world was, or how bad we had it on the Internet and we certainly never attempted 'poor me' 'walk a mile in my shoes' one upmanship.

We had to put all our possessions in storage and live with family. We lived off his redundancy money until he found a job, and paid our debts with it. We didn't plan any holidays and it never even occurred to us to claim whilst we had money in the bank.

You clearly don't think YABU and are being abusive, rude and offensive to anyone who doesn't agree with you. The only person being 'nasty' is you.

You sound like a petulant child with poor me syndrome. 'I want to keep ALL my money, contribute nothing and claim everything! And everyone is being mean to meeeee!'

Grow up OP, pull up your big girl panties and lose your frankly childish attitude, there's a dear.

You don't know when you're well off - because from where I was standing until recently that 'mile in your shoes' looks like a fucking stroll in the park. There are many people worse off than you, many people worse off than me. Instead of playing the victim card why don't you thank your lucky stars for what you DO have?

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 14:56

Coola If it helps to save you valuable time, I really didnt read all that as I don't need it and its not necessary,sorry

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CoolaSchmoola · 26/03/2013 15:22

Only because I don't agree with you... Which begs the question - why the fuck did you post on AIBU? Everyone who has not agreed is nasty and you won't read the nasty posts... Totally pointless assertion as the only way to know which are the 'nasty' or 'non nasty' posts is to read them.

We both know you read it, hell we ALL know you read it, silly 'la la fingers in ears I can't hear the nasty lady!' posts are just childish bollocks.

Par for the course with this thread. As said before - grow up.

PS - I know you're reading this too. But I don't care anymore, it's like trying to hold an intelligent discussion with a toddler. Although to be fair you've thrown more tantrums on this thread than my toddler has in a week.

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StealthPolarBear · 26/03/2013 15:28

"even to a total lunatic that I have 3 dcs not 4 although I concede my post seems to imply 3 but had clarified that."
OP you are still not making sense (and I did try) and you are being frankly rude to people who are trying to have a grown up conversation with you.

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 16:10

Not rude, just dont see the point of some comments thats all. Im not going into argument anymore and Im not reading anymore flamings. You dont have to post if you have nothing helpful to me. Period. And I dont see the point of your any more posts except it appears you have nothing better to do. You will not get this time back Im afraid, sorry

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StealthPolarBear · 26/03/2013 16:12

presumably you don't see the point because you aren't reading them - maybe give it a go. And unfortunately you aren't able to dictate people what to post.

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StealthPolarBear · 26/03/2013 16:15

oh and btw you are rude. You may think you're not, but you are.

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NoelHeadbands · 26/03/2013 16:16

You're coming across as a total tosser HTH

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Binkybix · 26/03/2013 16:17

What does HTH mean?

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Dryjuice25 · 26/03/2013 16:17

Your opinion. Dont mean to be rude but will respond to unpleasant posts as appropriate

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StealthPolarBear · 26/03/2013 16:23

Well that's 2 of us vs one of you so far.
Can you at least clarify if you have 3 or 4 children? Because your clarification was equally cryptic.

"it would have been clear as a blue sky even to a total lunatic that I have 3 dcs not 4 although I concede my post seems to imply 3 but had clarified that"

so your post implies 3. So 3 is wrong? So you have 4?

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thekidsrule · 26/03/2013 16:40

i have 3dc and single parent unemployed

i have to now pay £20 a month CT which i didnt before,

but i have benefits of approx £250 cash a week so dont have a problem paying this amount,as some poster said when you pay in you feel like you can voice an opinion on the services provided

also finding £5 a week towards this is not hard in my situation,i feel very sorry for the singles that get £71 a weeks and have to pay this and rent top up,seriously i would consider exempting them

op,you should have cleared your debts before claiming thus entitiling you to full benefit and live debt free that would of made you more able to manage

some will be Angry that i have said that to claim more benefit but many do and you really should of looked into things more beforehand

and if your ex is claimimg for your dc and your basically providing etc you really should be claiming for them not him

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