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Neighbour putting up a 6' wall but not clearing everything between the gardens first?

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twinklingfairy · 23/03/2013 14:16

I don't have a problem with the wall, well I do, it's hardly neighbourly is it, and we have had many a chat over our low wall Sad
But anyway, that is what she is doing and I respect her decision.

When she first talked about it I said rightyo, but we will be removing all the stuff between us first, right?
We have slabs, some old posts (inc the old barbed wire) and a hedge.
We agreed that it made sense to work together to do that first.

Now the foundations are being dug out and all the guff is still there, including the hedge which is on their land.
I went to speak to them about removing everything first, that having been what I agreed to.
But they, the FIL mainly, and the DH, decided to just bring the wall 6" in to their side in order to avoid all that.
ie leave it all on my side of their wall, hmm

That would then mean that I am left with the 6' wall, then a bush, then my slabs, with about 3" to play with to get all this back out!
Just not possible, no wiggle room. The slabs go underground by about 12".
It would make so much more sense to pull it all out some whilst there is room to do it.

The FIL was NOT happy with my input as they already dug the foundations and pulling out bushes would then knock everything back into the trough they had just dug.
I see his point, however, should he not have thought on that Before he dug the founds?

We also have a big tree slam in the middle of the party line.
That would leave me with a new wall, an old bush and a big slab pressed up hard against the tree trunk!
How on earth would I EVER get that sorted??

Am I being unreasonable in being quite cross, and worried, about this turn of events.
My DH works away from home, my Dad has hurt himself, I have no way of removing them myself!
I can't just sit back and let them build their wall, leaving all that ugliness for me to Not be able to deal with at a later date.

My sis says they don't Have to deal with it, legally.
But really, why would they do this Sad

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HeadfirstForHalos · 23/03/2013 14:58

Maybe it's just me but I'd just clear it myself and enjoy having an unofficial extra 6 inches of garden and a very private wall.

HeadfirstForHalos · 23/03/2013 15:00

If the space isn't big enough to to remove the slab, break it up first.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty · 23/03/2013 15:01

Me too, Heads.

A short term pain in the arse for a long term gain.

Result!

Grin
coppertop · 23/03/2013 15:13

If the piece of land on your side of the wall still belongs to them (as stated in the deeds to the property) then surely they are still legally responsible for it?

And what happens if they sell up at a future date and the new owners decide that they want that area of land back, no matter how small it might be?

CandyCrushed · 23/03/2013 17:03

I think they could have let you know what they were doing to be polite but they can do what they like on their own land (as long as it complies to planning/building regs etc)

I don't see why your slabs have any bearings on their wall. Hmm

Sounds like you have done well out of it.

SoupDreggon · 23/03/2013 17:06

HOw are they planning to maintain their hedge?

HeadfirstForHalos · 23/03/2013 19:35

After so many years won't the new wall legally become the official boundary? Or did I dream that? Boundaries can change but I'd ask on legal to be sure how exactly.

twinklingfairy · 24/03/2013 15:25

Ok, much calmer now.
My dad reckons it won't be hard to sort out once they are done building.
And I have just had a look at their foundations.
I think I have gained over a foot of garden!!
Whoop whoop!
And the space they are giving leaves far more space for removing the bushes than I had thought yesterday.

Hehe, I have definitely gained here.
Mouth is now firmly clamped shut Grin

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twinklingfairy · 24/03/2013 15:29

Soupsdreggon, that was my sisters response to it.
She also says that, as it is still legally on their land, I have no rights to pull it up.
I say a 6foot wall means they can no longer maintain it and I don't want it in my garden so out it comes.

Shhhhh, just don't tell them I am removing the hedge they have hidden behind their wall Wink

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Nanny0gg · 24/03/2013 16:01

It's their hedge - you are within your rights to give it back to them...

Grin
twinklingfairy · 24/03/2013 16:30

Hehe, that's very true Grin

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 24/03/2013 16:45

I'm quite jealous, I'd love a wall along my garden. Which direction does it run in though? If youve got the sunny side you could grow things like figs up it, or cordon peaches and theyd ripen lovely.

twinklingfairy · 24/03/2013 17:46

Yup, I have the sunny side Smile
My dad says apple trees.
Which is good because I inherited two of those with the garden.
One has never provided anything, the other doesn't even get to plum sized!
Hoping to move them against the wall. Also grow clematis type things and put in a lovely big mirror, so my garden will look Masssseeeeeeve!!

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twinklingfairy · 24/03/2013 18:04

Although, in the far north of Scotland I don't imagine a wall will help me grow peaches Sad

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 24/03/2013 18:08

oh you lucky lady :) (though yes, it would be a bit of a test on the peach front)

you'll have to keep up with the watering more, but its a small price to pay!

Ohhelpohnoitsa · 24/03/2013 18:09

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SoupDreggon · 24/03/2013 18:42

If I were you, I would leave something to mark the original boundary in case of future disputes.

twinklingfairy · 24/03/2013 20:07

The garden is on a bit of a slope, I am more concerned that the wall will make the area damp.

Do you think I should soupdreggon, mark the old boundary?
I will be planting down there, how would I mark it?

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SoupDreggon · 25/03/2013 07:35

Just some short posts would do it.

My old house had the rear boundary fence removed to improve access with just a post at the end to show the real line - without this it looked like the boundary was the neighbour's garage when it was actually about 10" across.

corlan · 25/03/2013 07:47

My neighbour did exactly the same thing a few weeks ago - perhaps they are related.

twinklingfairy · 25/03/2013 08:05

when my neighbour talked about putting up her wall I also talked to her about my plan to build a workshop using her wall and the other existing one.
Now BIL, sis DH, the one who says I can't touch the hedge, says I can't build my workshop without getting a written agreement from them (my neighbours) because of the boundary issues they have created.

Good Lord! They pull the joy out of everything!

But, is he right?
I doubt they will ever bother and I think that, yes, after 10years, if no one raises a question, then the new boundary becomes the existing boundary.
I mean why, in the future, would someone want to pull down a 6foot wall, complete with foundations, to reclaim 12"?

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twinklingfairy · 25/03/2013 08:08

Also my neighbours are young, not 30 quite yet.
They are Very settled people though. They will Never leave the village, type of people.
I can't see them ever going back on this decision.

Damn it, I am building my workshop!
Wink

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CandyCrushed · 25/03/2013 08:56

Don't build a workshop using their wall and their land. That would be silly and greedy Confused. Build the workshop completely on your land.

They have already effectively 'given' you a foot long strip of land.
Info on Adverse Possession of land. You may be able to grab their land after a period of 10 years. Although I don't see any tangible benefit to you for doing this and you would have to declare any boundary disputes if you were to try and sell your house. It would also be morally wrong. IMO.

I imagine your plots are reasonably large and they felt it was easier to loose the land that have to negotiate with their nieghbours.

fluffyraggies · 25/03/2013 09:46

Yep -

boundary disputes if you were to try and sell your house

^^ this is what would worry me about this situation. This is why good bounderies are important. It's checked up on in the Searches when a house goes on the market and a property withany thing out of sorts is dropped like a hot potato usually. That will include yours OP sadly.

twinklingfairy · 25/03/2013 20:41

BIL thinks if I get them to sign something saying that they agreed to my using the party wall then I should be ok?
I said to the neighbours, when they first talked about building their wall, that I would use it to build a workshop?

No, still not ok Wink
Sigh Sad

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