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My horrible experience of men this weekend. Friend seems to think it's 'normal drunken male behaviour'. AIBU to think it's not acceptable?

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WhistlingNun · 18/03/2013 10:57

I'd like to start by saying i'm not a prude; however, i freely admit i have trust issues when it comes to men.

I was away for the weekend with my two best friends. Friend A is a very flirty, outgoing woman and just goes with the flow with most situations. She rarely gets worked up about anything. Friend B is more like me. Slightly uncomfortable in new groups of people/surroundings. But we're all generally up for a laugh, we just have different boundaries from each other.

Anyway. On the first night of our break, we went round various pubs and clubs, having one drink in each, but staying for longer if we liked it.

In the first pub, a very drunk man came over to our table and started wrapping his arm around me and friend A's waist. She was laughing politely, trying to get him to go away. I sort of turned my back to him and talked to friend B, wriggling free of him every time he touched me. He persisted for another five minutes before moving onto the next table of women.

In the next place, my friends and i were dancing. in the space of ten minutes, three different men threw themselves at friend B, trying to kiss her.

We moved on. I went to the bar, and got chatting to a lovely man (or so he seemed). He was very drunk but was also very polite. After ten minutes, he asked for my number and i said okay (a bit drunk myself). He said it would be nice to meet for lunch tomorrow before i go home the following day.

In the next place, i bumped into him again. And after a few hours we kissed. Then, all manners went out the window. He was groping my backside and kept asking me to go home with him. I said no way, and he called me a horrid name, a tease, and then stormed off. He came back an hour later and tried it on with me again. I told him no. And then (which i'm furious about now), i apologised for leading him on/building up his expectations.

When my friends and I got back to the hotel, he text me ten times saying i'm gorgeous etc, will i meet him tomorrow. I ignored and blocked his number the next morning.

The second night was worse. In one place, i tripped as i was coming upstairs from the toilet. Two men were behind me. One of them hit my backside really hard, and i yelled at him (kicked him in the balls). Back upstairs, they tried it again and said 'you loved it really. You love the punishment'. I was furious. We left, and went elsewhere.

I was sitting at a table in another place. One guy came up and chatted to friend A. Then, for no reason whatsoever, he turned round and called me a stupid bitch!

We left. In another place, as i was walking downstairs, a guy just grabbed my neck, tried to kiss me. When i pushed away, he told me to fuck off, and called me a slut.

I was really upset by all of this. More so, because friend A tried to excuse their behaviour saying they were just acting like typical drunken men. She said i shouldn't take their comments seriously. They don't know me, so their comments are stupid.

I don't go out much to be honest (maybe once or twice a year), so maybe i was just more shocked by this behaviour because of that. Whereas friend A and B (childless) go out every weekend, so will be more used to it.

Please don't think i'm not up for a laugh, or i'm a boring old fart or anything. i'm not. I just don't think this is acceptable. And it's still playing on my mind.

I was probably more sensitive to it because i was on edge thinking about dd (never left her for more than one night before). Friend B has recently lost a parent and i felt like i couldn't say no to her about going away.

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flippinada · 18/03/2013 11:37

YANBU. This kind if stuff is one reason why I can't be bothered with "nights out" any more.

If your friend thinks this is give then she's the one with the problem, not you.

WhistlingNun · 18/03/2013 11:40

I don't even know why i gave my phone number out so freely. I was a bit drunk myself at that stage, and he seemed genuinely lovely, and i thought we were going to have lunch the next day. Blush

I didn't tell the doormen because we weren't staying long anyway, and friend told me i was over reacting. It was like being out with her mum!

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Lighthousekeeping · 18/03/2013 11:42

It's not acceptable but, sadly, a lot of women seem to think that's just the way it is. Especially the younger ones. Isn't it down to the type of places you where drinking in? Not that is an excuse at all but if you where in a music bar or say, an indie place or a put where students hang out you probably wouldn't get that kind of treatment. It's really vile when you just can't go out and have a good night without been hassled by drunk parts.

If its any consolation, I got similar treatment on a train at the weekend yes, a train. Full of pissed up football fans.

flippinada · 18/03/2013 11:44

Fine, not give.

Your friend sounds a bit of a twat, tbh. From what you've said, it appears she's not bothered about your feelings as long a she has a good time. Not the behaviour of a good friend.

BookFairy · 18/03/2013 11:58

How awful for you. I currently live near-ish to Blackpool and have never been as it has a reputation. It's sad that your friend values attention from a man over a good night out with her friends.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 18/03/2013 12:02

Dear God that sounds awful!

And IME not normal. You get the odd tosser, but most people are just out having fun.

aldiwhore · 18/03/2013 12:05

I was aghast until you said Blackpool. It's a fucking pit, I lived there for 5 years and though there are some lovely locals, it's the most tacky, seedy place I've ever been, it promotes awful behaviour. Most people who go there leave their brains, inhibitions, manners and morals behind.

It isn't acceptable behaviour. EVEN in Blackpool it is not acceptable, though it seemed to me that a blind eye was turned by everyone.

The police do their best but they work against the odds.

Unfortunately it is the norm in Blackpool.

I'm sorry if I've offended any locals, I feel for you actually that your town has been turned into such an awful place.

happybubblebrain · 18/03/2013 12:07

Sounds awful. I hope you recover from it soon.

This reminds me why I never go out anymore, or have any men in my life. They think they can just do as they please, increasingly so.

Mandy2003 · 18/03/2013 13:26

I think that sort of what I would call arsehole behaviour is increasing too.

Do you recall the experience of the female student whose debating society competed at Glasgow University recently. Here - sorry its a Mail link!

When I heard it reported on the news it seemed that ALL the male students present at this event thought there was nothing wrong with their peers' behaviour. And these are supposedly educated people.

Sleepflower43 · 18/03/2013 13:27

I'm live near Blackpool and go out in Blackpool on a regular basis.

Yes, certain areas are rough and a bit seedy but it's certainly not a fucking pit! Unfortunately it's the visitors to the place (male and female) that give it such a terrible reputation. They would never behave the way they do in their home towns.

The "local" bars and clubs do not tolerate the behaviour described by the OP.

TheFuzz · 18/03/2013 13:28

Blackpool for a night out isn't good. Totally un-acceptable behaviour. Not making excuses, but the place really changes at night when all the stag and hen parties are out.

LaQueen · 18/03/2013 13:37

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AvonCallingBarksdale · 18/03/2013 13:38

Eurghh, how hideous, OP. I've been out in Blackpool once and would never, ever go again. It was awful then and sounds like it still is. Pick somewhere nicer next time and, although it wasn't the best idea to give the guy your number, that in no way whatsoever excuses his behaviour.

Callycat · 18/03/2013 13:42

WhistlingNun, I knew even before you said it that this was Blackpool. I lived there for a many years and everything you described happened to me or my friends almost every time we went out. Nt just in the pubs, either - often just on the street or in a shop.

I don't know what it is about Blackpool, but it really is a shitty place to be female. This sory of behaviour is largely regarded as harmess laddishness - not by everyone, but by a lot of people - and any woman who complains is likely to be called a miserable bitch, or worse. Sorry about what happened to you; you are DNBU.

Fillyjonk75 · 18/03/2013 13:50

I'd review where you go out next time! But no, their behaviour is not acceptable! When I was younger there were some places where you'd avoid. Where apparently being on the dance floor gives them licence to grope your arse Angry and generally you just didn't feel safe.

I don't mind men coming over to chat to me though I soon make it plain that I'm married and not interested, politely.

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