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to allow my ds to see his father?

22 replies

wannaBe · 15/03/2013 17:44

I don't actually think I am, but I am being led to believe that I am so thought I'd put the question out here. This may be long so bear with me.

Me and dh split up in July of last year, and I finally moved out two weeks ago. We have one ds who is ten. We are parenting 50/50 with pretty much h having ds two nights a week and every other weekend.

However I am pretty flexible esp about weekends and for e.g. ds wanted to come back here on Sunday last week because of mother's day, and conversely he will be going to his dad's this sunday because A, he won't have seen him since yesterday morning and B, h is going on a school trip on Monday so it makes sense for ds to stay there sunday night as well... But me and h are fairly amicable and I am not a believer in laying down the law in terms of access and having a strict "my time, your time" rule, as long as we all fit in with each other where possible. As ds is ten it's only a matter of a couple of years before he'll be able to come and go between houses if he wants to anyway so might as well start out from that angle.

We told ds that we were splitting up in about October as I'd moved into the spare room and I wanted to show him the house we were moving to, etc, and since that time he has done things separately with both of us i.e. he came with me to my parents just before Christmas, and he went away with h to his parents for new year. H is also taking him away for a week over the summer on a holiday which mil paid for for the whole family, and I will (finance permitting) obviously take him on holiday etc at other times in the future..

That's the background...

The issue I have is that my mother has been fiercely against me giving h any kinds of rights to his ds or giving ds any kind of choice over whether he sees his dad. Her view is very much that ds is mine, that I should be the one who decides where and when he goes and that I should allow ds to see his dad at my and only my convenience.

When he went away at new year ds was then given the choice as to whether he went to see his grandparents or stayed with me. That was obviously because we were still all living in the same house at that point. She was fuming and said that five days was too long for him to be away from me (with his father of all people who is a good father - I won't take that away from him) and that I should just have said no.

ILs want to come up over the easter holidays, not sure exactly when that will be yet, but when my mother got to hear of this her first reaction was "well if it's on your time they just won't be able to see ds." I pointed out that no way was I going to turn around and tell ds he wasn't allowed to see his grandparents, and that if he wants to see them then of course he can go over to his dad's for some of that time, why would I stop that?

She then said "you shouldn't be giving him choices. He's only ten, he's not old enough to be making choices. You should be laying down the law, he's yours and he should be with you."

I am really Angry about this. Me and h certainly have had our differences, but the one thing we have been in total agreement about has been ds, and I am a believer that where possible parents should parent jointly. (obviously I appreciate this isn't possible for everyone but it is for us, so why shouldn't we?)

I have told her to but out and that she needs to let this go but she is incapable and brings it up every time we speak. Every time she calls she asks where ds is and if he's with his dad you can hear the disapproval in her voice.

I shouldn't be doubting myself on this. But she makes me doubt myself on this.

so ibu?

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jendot · 15/03/2013 17:46

Sounds PERFECT....
Adopt a smile and 'yes mum' attitude and let it wash over you!

RedHelenB · 15/03/2013 17:47

Not at all - tell her to butt out!!

WorraLiberty · 15/03/2013 17:49

She sounds insane...just ignore her.

You have a great arrangement there OP.

SnotMeReally · 15/03/2013 17:50

YANBU

I bet she would soon change her tune if her birthday/family event fell during exP's "allotted time"

your set up sounds ideal and well done both of you for being so sensible - too many people use their DC as pawns in a game of revenge

sunshine401 · 15/03/2013 17:51

Of course you are not. A child is not a possession. You both bought this child into the world. You are both equally the child's parents 50/50 care is the best possible thing to happen when it can be manged.

Xales · 15/03/2013 17:52

Stop telling her stuff and just get on with it between you.

It sounds like you are both putting your DS first.

HollyBerryBush · 15/03/2013 17:52

I can understand your mother backing your corner and defending you - but believe me - the biggest gift you can give a child is the stability of a parental relationship, even if you are no longer together. far too many children are damaged by being torn and made to choose, or have no choice in which parent they see, or live with. they are often used as pawns in an adult game.

high fives< because you aren't playing that game.

You're child will not thank you for removing his father totally from his life, and you'll probably be glad of some 50/50 respite during the teen years.

ihearsounds · 15/03/2013 17:58

Remind her of 2 things -
He isn't a possession to be owned by anyone.
And secondly, without the sperm there would not be a child.
Neither of you own the child, instead as parents you are both equally responsible.
As for your ds not spending time with his grandparents, tell her, simply then it should be a ban on all grandparents. She will either sulk or very quickly change her mind.

When she calls, and is disapproving of the arrangements or makes any negative comments, tell her straight, its none of her business and you are hanging up. Eventually she should get the message,

DeepRedBetty · 15/03/2013 18:06

Of course yanbu. It's very hard when one realises that a parent is sometimes wrong, but in this case your mum is and you and your x are doing the right thing.

You'll just have to let it wash over you like I do when mine repeats the latest health scare/immigration outrage/fill-in-your-own-conspiracy-theory-here that's she's picked up from the Daily Mail.

wannaBe · 15/03/2013 18:16

thank you :)

yes at new year I told her it was none of her business and she didn't speak to me for two weeks.

Agree re the if it were her celebration but tbh I think that has something to do with it as ds isn't as close to my side of the family as h's and she may think that she's going to see less of him (she doesn't see that much of him anyway as they live 200 miles away.

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WileyRoadRunner · 15/03/2013 18:17

Yanbu.

You are doing a fine job of making sure you put your child first. Many people cannot manage to do this. You obviously are a very able parent and if I was your mum I would be bursting with pride.

Your child will only benefit from the arrangement you have with your ex.

I would tell your mother in no uncertain terms that your DC's happiness is the most important thing and that you want to hear no more about it.

CloudsAndTrees · 15/03/2013 18:25

YANBU. In the nicest possible way, your mother is a loon. She sounds very controlling.

I have a similar thing to you going on with my ex and dc, it works brilliantly and I would be prepared to slap people that tried to tell me it doesn't.

TroublesomeEx · 15/03/2013 18:30

You have the perfect arrangement. Just ignore her.

Tbh, this is what my husband and I have tried to do since we split up. Not the 50/50 in terms of residence because he lives with his parents now, but we are also very flexible about 'contact' and it works in much the same way you describe.

It's working for us because all I've had is positive comments from people about how well the children are adapting and how well they are doing. And I'm sure it's working for your son similarly.

You need to tell your mum that it is an agreement/arrangement you and your husband have come to because you both feel it's in the best interest of your son and that it's not a conversation you intend to have with her, or a decision she has any say in. What she is effectively saying is that she wants you to use your son to punish your husband because your marriage didn't work out. Nice.

ScarletLady02 · 15/03/2013 18:35

YANBU at all...I wish more break-ups were as amicable (DH has a daughter whom his ex denies him contact with) and your ds sounds very lucky to have two parents that are putting his needs first. The way you need to explain it to your Mum is that she needs to look at it from your son's point of view. He will want to see both his parents, and he won't want any bad feeling and arguments....you are achieving that at the moment, so that's fantastic.

SquinkiesRule · 15/03/2013 18:35

So long as you are your Dh are able to parent in the best interest of your Ds and not fight about everything then no one should be concerned about how you your child and your Dh arrange things. It sounds like everyone is getting on just fine without her input. Your Ds will benefit from this. Well done.

NynaevesSister · 15/03/2013 18:37

Wow I think you and your h are amazing. Well done for putting son first.

wannaBe · 15/03/2013 18:45

oh yes controlling is about right. When we first split up she said I should move back to my home town (understandable on some levels as family are there for support), but when I pointed out that that would mean we couldn't parent 50/50 she said "well, ds will soon adapt to only seeing xh every other weekend, children are resilliant, they adapt to these things." Hmm

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GoblinGold · 15/03/2013 18:52

Maybe your mum has seen her child hurt and is lashing out. She's clearly wrong, and being childish.

You, of course, are right in your approach and I'm sure that your son will appreciate that as he reaches adulthood.

Would you be able to take your mum out when she's not wound up? you could explain that the approach your taking is this, and though you understand that she's only looking out for you, the best way to do it is to back you. And that if she can't do that you will no longer discuss it with her.

kinkyfuckery · 15/03/2013 18:53

I am in awe of how you manage your relationship with your ex. You are a fantastic parent, and I really wish me and my ex were more like you.

kinkyfuckery · 15/03/2013 18:53

Just realised that sounds very sarcastic! It isn't supposed to be, at all.

quoteunquote · 15/03/2013 19:04

Just keep co parenting, ignore your mother she is bonkers, if you can maintain a good working co parenting arrangement it will serve you well through the teen years.

exoticfruits · 15/03/2013 19:25

Smile, nod and just say pleasantly that it isn't your way-and change the subject-don't even give her room for discussion-do the same phrase like a broken record.

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