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To think that this buyer probably had no intentions of buying the car?

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100DaysofSummer · 11/03/2013 11:56

I've finally upgraded my trusty 10 year old car.

I listed my old car on ebay, it has a few problems and it seemed beyond me repairing it, but it's a reliable little car for someone who want a runabout or who has the time to give it some tlc.

It was listed cheap £500 and I put both mine and my partners phone number on the listing to contact if interested or to arrange to view. Up until the last hour of the auction I'd had no calls or interest at all in the car, I went out for the afternoon and decided to just give the car to a family member who doesn't have one.

Anyway, I got home late that night to discover someone had bid on the car and won the auction, I was surprised to say the least as I'd expect someone buying a cheap car to at least want to come and look over it before bidding. The buyer hadn't made any contact at all by the following evening to arrange to pay or collect the car, I looked at their ebay profile and realised that they lived in Norfolk. Which is 170 miles away from me and a 3.5 hour drive going by their postcode. I thought who is going to travel 170 miles to buy a £500 car which they haven't even seen?

I decided to send a request to cancel the sale. If the buyer agrees then the sale won't go through and I won't have to pay a final value fee. I they decline then I do.

The buyer declined the cancellation and sent an abrupt message saying that I was out of order and he needed the car urgently.

I sent him a message saying I'd opted to cancel the sale as I'd realised he lived so far away, and due to the fact that he hadn't contacted me I'd assumed it wasn't a serious bid, but asked him if he wanted to go ahead. No reply.

Luckily Ebay have sorted it out with regards to the charges, but aibu to think that this guy was probably having a bit of a laugh?

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CockyFox · 11/03/2013 14:04

A find it a bit bizarre that you cancelled.
We once bought a car on Ebay it was quite a distance away, a good 1hr 45 minute drive, we bid with ten minutes to go on an 8 yr old car with 150000 + miles on the clock. We didn't view it we just seached ebay for the biggest car we could afford (to tow our caravan after our car packed up a week before our holiday).
If the seller had cancelled because we weren't quick enough to reply or were too far away we wouldn't have replied to them either we would have complained to ebay. I think YABU

Buzzardbird · 11/03/2013 14:06

Next time just say it was stolen.

HorribleMother · 11/03/2013 14:07

"if ebay take such a dim view, why have they cancelled the sale for me and credited my account with a message saying I'm a valued seller etc, etc?"

Yes indeed, how did you manage that?! I am so impressed, I've lost a few FVF when buyers refused to cancel but nor could I complete the sale, what trick am I missing??!

FWIW, i think you should have allowed 3 days for buyer to arrange payment & collection, you were too quick to move to cancel. I am guessing that buyer has quite terrible record of failing to complete previous purchases?

Backtobedlam · 11/03/2013 14:13

YABU-I had a seller cancel something I thought I'd won on eBay. The first I knew of it was when I got an email saying my bid had been cancelled! I didn't have any feedback as I was new to eBay and had joined specifically to bid on this item. So many crooks selling on eBay, I think this person cancelled my bid as they didn't think item had sold for enough.

Cantbelieveitsnotbutter · 11/03/2013 14:47

Yabu
I've driven hundreds of miles to buy a car unviewed.
My oh sells cars on eBay alot and only 2/3 times has anyone viewed the car pre bidding. Assuming he's aware of the distance then its his problem.

100DaysofSummer · 11/03/2013 16:30

Just to answer a few questions.

I don't get why you'd bother asking AIBU if you're BU, if you don't think you are at all.

I just asked and wondered what people thought re it being a bit unrealistic that he would drive 170 miles to buy a £500 car. I understand if people believe that or have done that themselves. Sometimes I think people ask on aibu as they're a bit unsure, but hen on hearing the responses, even if they are in disagreement with the op, it can make you even more sure that yanbu.

Re drip feeding, people always seem to pull this line when an op gives more information in subsequent posts. I tried to put everything in the op but might have forgotten a few things.

And then you say

I have been using ebay as a seller for 8 years and haven't had a problem and always have good feedback

I think I've had bad experiences with things like this

So which one is it? 8 years without a problem or having had bad experiences?

When I said the first statement, I was replying to someone who said I should stay off ebay and I'm a bad seller, I've sold hundreds of items and buyers have always been 100% happy and I've loads of good feedback and none bad. The second statement was me referring to buyer messing me around, I've had bad experience with timewaster, people who bid on things and don't pay even after weeks, or who pay two weeks later despite me request payment within 24 hours. Or people asking daft questions like asking for something really cheap.

Yes indeed, how did you manage that?! I am so impressed, I've lost a few FVF when buyers refused to cancel but nor could I complete the sale, what trick am I missing??!

I just contacted ebay and explained what had happened, I had an email back within 30 minutes saying that they had credited me with the FVF, I'm a valued seller etc and that they take action against non payers but cannot tell me what will happen in this intance due to confidentiality, then they suggested that it's best not to try to cancel an item without first agreeing it with the buyer but to note it as an unpaid item.

Regarding the 3 days wait, I understand what people are saying, if it was a small item that would be posted I would always wait a week before startign a dispute, even though I always list as requiring payment withing 24 hours. In this case I had clearly put in the listing that I needed a quick sale and the date etc, I had to get rid of the car by that day as my new car was arriving and needed to change insurance details etc. I didn't have time to wait around for this guy to decide whether he was going to respond, I waited more than 24 hours.

And as I will say again it was the fact he'd failed to respond, the fact that he lived so far away and the fact that he had loads of feedback saying he'd not paid, mostly for car bits. You cannot leave a buyer bad feedback so it was all green but when I read it there were loads of people saying 'didn't pay for wheels', 'agressive to deal with', 'unresponsive to messages', things like that so I put two and two together.

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JakeBullet · 11/03/2013 16:36

Ah 100, I have been happily driving round in my 1998 Rover which cost me £250 on eBay......myself and a friend drove from Essex to Nottingham to collect it so on balance Id say he might well have been genuine.

Off to read the thread now Grin

100DaysofSummer · 11/03/2013 16:42

Wow Jakebullet.

I honestly would not even attempt to drive the car 170 miles but hey ho. I might have just saved him from breaking down on the motorway on the way home.

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IneedAsockamnesty · 11/03/2013 17:10

Last car I tried to sell on eBay car was significantly under book price as I wanted shot quick the buyer turned up tried to get the price down to less than scrab value and paid in counterfeit notes.

eBay still refused to refund the fee's

100DaysofSummer · 11/03/2013 17:38

Sockreturningpixie didn't you got to the police?

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IneedAsockamnesty · 11/03/2013 17:55

Yes I handed over the notes to the police but nothing much happened.

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 11/03/2013 18:07

Is it just me that immediately thought of the counter terrorism radio ad where 'he bought the car in cash, he didn't even look at it'? Wink

NeverWinsMNComps · 11/03/2013 18:19

Sold a old banger car on ebay a couple of weeks ago to a guy that lived hundreds of miles away and hadn't looked at the car first. Guess he just really wanted the car.

JakeBullet · 11/03/2013 19:08

We towed it back 100, it had less than 50k on the clock, had belonged to an elderly man who barely drove it. Got it back, insured it, took for an MOT and it passed first time....got myself a real little bargain....had it just over a year now. Just gone through another MOT....and passed again.

Yes I'd drive a fair distance to get another car like this in future. However long it lasts I have more than had my money's worth.

countrykitten · 11/03/2013 20:54

You are being incredibly U and you know it. How on earth do you know what this man's intentions were? You deserve dreadful feedback and it's a shame he can't leave you any.

And did you scrap the car or give it to a family member - your story says both.

buggerama · 12/03/2013 18:39

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zwischenzug · 12/03/2013 18:55

It appears you don't know much about eBay or cars. Mixing the two obviously wasn't a good idea.

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