To think this is bullshit, and I need YOUR help to stop it.

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link to a fred sorry

It is just bullshit, misogynistic bullshit. I need your help.

Link to article what no means

Nayasa I'll behave as I like thank you.

It's a crappy and offensive article which is all over one of the most well read sites on the net.

And it mentions Fifty Shades as part of the sexual revolution?????!!!!

What a twonk she is! The author of the article I mean.

Darkesteyes what? The author as given legitimate tips on how to get your partner in the mood.

MrsMushroom NAYSA not nayasa. How rude

Naysa if the article also said that the man should also let go of his expectations for orgasms then it wouldnt be a mysogynistic article. But it doesnt say that. It just says that the woman should let go of her expectations of it.

Hey 1885 called. They want their article back.

Oh get real Naysa...it's commonplace on here for people to get spellings wrong. Only people who are looking to deflect feign offense.

Women are people with needs and expectations too. We are not mastabatory aids.

Naysa I totally agree with you

I think some people are deliberately reading their own agendas into this article and therefore cannot see it for the good that was intended....although I think it was clumsily written.

The OP for example wrote, The long and short of it, is apparently a woman means yes if you approach sex right and a man means yes if a woman doesn't expect an orgasm

It was abundantly clear to me from just a very quick read that it stated 'multiple' orgasms and not a woman expecting no orgasm at all.

It's badly written, badly titled and full of sweeping generalisations and stupid assumptions and gender stereotypes but I don't think it's worth getting het up over tbh

She's not saying anything other than "if you think your wife gets really turned on if you just try to stick your penis in her with no build up and let her do all the washing up, she doesn't, so try a different approach"

She's just saying it really badly

maybe it is badly titled. Has anyone suggested to them they change the title?

Mainly she says that groping and pushing sex on a partner is not good and making a partner feel inadequate won't help - I think you're seeing something that's not there

Mountain. Molehill.

OP haven't you got a bra to be burning somewhere?

You need to get a grip OP. I would often have loved for my exP to get me in the mood but he would just approach in the wrong way at the wrong time because he didn't consider that it takes me longer to warm up, so we would both end up missing out. If you are in a warm loving and trustful relationship and you turn down sex, it is ok for your partner to try to understand why, because they know and understand you as a person. It's not at all about women being forced or used, if you're in the kind of relationship where that could occur you need to get out now. This article is about communication and seduction. You are hysterical and you're being very aggressive to posters for no reason.

We've had a similar conversation recently. What with DCs, work house and also a few bereavements over the last few years, we'd kind of lost our way in this part of our life.

We had a good frank talk and a lot of these points came up. It wasn't that DH (or me just as often) didn't take no for an answer, because we did. It was just that we needed to work through why the answer was so often no. It was mostly to do with time, making time for each other. Obvious really, but sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees.

MrsMushroom getting so worked up about it that you're misquoting and calling people by the wrong names is not helping your cause.

It's Yahoo. Who gives a fuck what they say anyway?

Honestly, I can't think of a single man who would even read that tripe, never mind act on it.