UKIP are the new future?

[LadyPessaryPam]

Just a small positive thread about UKIP that doesn't involve smears from other parties. I was very glad about Eastleigh and pleased that the voters had seen through the smokescreens and disinformation sent out by the 3 main parties.

Well documented that they have the laziest euro mps of the lot - still enjoying their salary but regularly failing to actually turn up and do their jobs.

They're a more credible version of the BNP - for thick, daily mail readers.

So, YABU.

My feeling wreckitralph is that the straight answers you applaud simply demonstrate simplistic responses to complex situations. If you believe there are no straightforward solutions, those straight answers start to sound frighteningly ill thought out.

It may be that realistically Ukip nevers gain any real power, but if "the threat of Ukip" makes the current government listen, even if their only worry is losing the general election... surely this can only be a good thing.

"My feeling wreckitralph is that the straight answers you applaud simply demonstrate simplistic responses to complex situations. If you believe there are no straightforward solutions, those straight answers start to sound frighteningly ill thought out"

I think this complexification is the trap all the main parties have fallen into, cue endless hand wringing and indecisiveness, which is turning many voters off.

UKIP is exploiting this to the max, and so their headline policies are very popular to many.

Nigel Farage on the today programme earlier this week described an instance of one of his party members doing a nazi salute as, "not pretty". I heard him say it.

I was very shocked that that was his assessment of what is essentially a hate gesture.

The problem is that the conservatives are just sitting back and declairingthem a much of clowns when they are seriously denying heir vote, it's quite dismissive of the party when they really nee to be sitting up and taking notice, it's also dismissive of the people who have/ are considering voting for them which isn't going to do them any good in the long term.

At this point I'll just say I vote Labour anyway.

I'm not a ukip supporter in any way but clearly some are and their concerns need to be addressed rather than dismissed by the conservatives in order to get them back onside

Also I live where the Tory mayor has just yesterday been beaten by Labour...

I got a leaflet from the Tory mayor before and there was not a single mention of the conservatives or policy or anything, it s all about badmouthing other candidates it's a bloody joke

They're not really a party. They're a disparate group of individuals united by bigotry and a strong feeling that things were better in the 1950s.

Aren't the UKIP the ones that advocated compulsory abortions for disabled babies? (I could be wrong?)

That Nazi salute really didn't look like a Nazi salute though :/ it looks like he was reaching for the camera (just saying)

Frickin Prince Harry dressed as a nazi once and that wasn't used against the entire royal family.

Of course garage is going to say the whole incident wasn't pretty, because it was ugly

Extreme pie - I thought the person who said that got kicked out of the party?

, " not pretty " is a woeful reaction. What about saying that an investigation would take place and that extremist views are not acceptable etc...although I see that this has now happened, I feel sceptical about whether ukip would be bothered about the incident for its own sake, rather than as a pr problem.

I have taken against prince Harry for dressing as a nazi. Unfortunately I don't think I am in a position to influence the general public round to my point of view.

Great result IMHO

But he had already looks into it and accepted that it wasn't intended to be a Nazi salute as he ha been reaching for the camera etc, it was just a comment about the unfortunate incident and reporting a a whole, not a failure to discipline nazi salutes, because He had accepted there wasn't one iyswim?

I don't even vote uukip but I think mn is very quick to generalise about all of ukip when they don't stand for generalisations on any other group of people

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LadyPessaryPam ...a few observations:

So you don't like our currency, interesting....

That poster didn't say they don't like our currency. They said they didn't like the £ sign UKIP logo. Two very different things. I happen to agree, it's a crap logo and the party needs a more professional one IMO, especially now the whole Euro currency debate is dead and buried.

Don't be so ready to jump down people's throats if your interested in a sensible conversation, because you make yourself look less than sensible from the get go.

It helps enormously that I don't really care about the opinions of the resident lefties.

Again, just needless baiting. I'm a resident lefty. I happen to think UKIP are very good for democracy and UK politics, even though I strongly disagree with the majority of their policies. It's undeniable that the party has attracted oddball racists, homophobes etc (especially in the past), but then so have the Tories, so have other parties.

Why not just be positive about what you think is good about UKIP?

As to you original question, I'd say YANBU to want that to be the case, but YABU to state that it's the case without any further facts, figures, points Etc. But in general a largely one issue party is unlikely to be the future for a long long long time.

By Elections are not always an indicator of general election performance, and either way the natural growth of political parties means even if UKIP were to be the future (I'm assuming you mean general election victory by this?)...it would take many many many many years, and would have to counter the trend of ALL parties drifting to the left when it comes to social issues, something that IMO is highly unlikely to happen.

I wonder how the football fans of UKIP are going to react when they realise that the restriction of free movement and employment within the European Union is going to affect who they can employ as players.

John Sullivan UKIP party candidate,

who is a member of the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) likened gay activists to termites and stated that feminism is evil and being gay is even worse.
Sullivan suggested regular physical exercise prevents children from becoming gay.

He recommended Victorian style regular physical exercise be reinstated in schools as it apparently causes releases of tension which prevents homosexuality.

Anyone who votes for these vile people should be really ashamed of themselves.

What are UKIP's actual policies anyway??

And do they have any candidates who are, erm, normal?

Anyone wanting to bring back hunting, is a twat. UKIP do, hence, big bunch of twats.

Well, i disagree with bringing back hunting.