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to think that a Pizza Express Ham & Cheese Cappalletti should not contain beef?

26 replies

Beaaware · 24/02/2013 10:49

Is this blatant mis-labelling, front of label content description "Pizza Express Prosciutto Ham Cappelletti Free Range Egg Pasta Filled With Proscuitto Ham & Cheese"

back of label Contains 2% Beef

AIBU to think that the manufacturers should put beef on front of label?

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Gigondas · 24/02/2013 10:53

It's listed in the ingredients so if you have dietary issues , it is there so I don't see why you would make it more prominent.

LadyBeagleEyes · 24/02/2013 10:56

Well no, it's not mis labelling as it says 2% beef on the back.

ZillionChocolate · 24/02/2013 10:57

I don't think it's unreasonable. I think it would be unreasonable to put beef in something that sounded meat free. I'd work on the basis that people who don't eat meat, or particular kinds of meat, will check the back of the packet.

KobayashiMaru · 24/02/2013 10:57

Why? If they put every single ingredient in the title it wouldn't fit on the packet. Whats your beef?

peggyblackett · 24/02/2013 10:58

Or horse.

Rhiannon86 · 24/02/2013 11:03

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HollyBerryBush · 24/02/2013 11:06

shakes head

RedHotRudieParts · 24/02/2013 11:06

Could it be gelatin ??

Iamsparklyknickers · 24/02/2013 11:07

Ime people with strict dietary requirements - religious, allergens or choice, tend to give most labels a quick glance knowing that the oddest things turn up where you least expect them.

On that basis yabalittleu. I think it's a little naive to only expect your food to contain whatever the title on the box says unless it's a basic ingredient.

Sirzy · 24/02/2013 11:08

It is labelled, people with dietry needs will generally read the ingredients and not assume what is on the front is an accurate overview

Iamsparklyknickers · 24/02/2013 11:08

redhot maybe it was beef rennet used in the cheese making? Or the meat has been bulked out...l

SamuelWestsMistress · 24/02/2013 11:13

It won't be beef though, it'll be horse!

teacherandguideleader · 24/02/2013 11:17

I don't think you can rely too much on the title of a food - I certainly am glad my Shepherd's pie does not contain Shepherds.

Rosa · 24/02/2013 11:22

Well Proscuitto is ham so the title doesn't make sense anyway.

LIZS · 24/02/2013 11:29

yanbu . I avoid beef as far as possible (since BSE when I was pg with ds) but would not necessarily check a product labelled as ham and cheese just in case whereas processed meat products I would. Makes you wonder about their restaurant food labelling too.

ChessieFL · 24/02/2013 11:33

As others have said it will probably be gelatine or Renner rather than actual beef, and those who have to avoid those things for dietary or religious reasons will check the ingredients list anyway. So YABU.

ChessieFL · 24/02/2013 11:34

Rennet not Renner!

Beaaware · 24/02/2013 11:48

Thanks for all your replies, I guess a Ham & Cheese meal is not a Ham & Cheese meal anymore.

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Tee2072 · 24/02/2013 12:03

I was going to ask if Jeremy Renner was in it, ChessieFL. Grin

As others have said, it's probably in the cheese. Would you rather they didn't tell you about the beef at all?

Seems companies can't win these days, can they.

Cassarick · 24/02/2013 12:13

It was also on a BBC programme the other night that if you buy Ham Anything Pizza from any outlet that is run by people of a certain religious persuasion, then you definitely won't get Ham.........they substitute Turkey for Ham because they will not handle Pork. They do not change their menus to tell you so, either.

BlessedDespair · 24/02/2013 12:56

Cassarick Surely that would be false advertising and potentially illegal under trading standards or some other such body as a percentage of the ingredient has to be in the product in order to make that claim?

MarinaTheMarvellous · 24/02/2013 13:35

You do need to read ingredients carefully to be sure what you are getting - I have bought two different brands of chocolate mousse where beef gelatine and pork gelatine were listed...

Beaaware · 24/02/2013 16:40

The actual ingredients in this packet of Pizza Express Cheese and Ham Cappalletti are:
Wheat Flour, Durum Wheat Semolina, Free Range Egg (10%), Water, Proscuitto Crudo (5.5%), Pork (2%), Beef (2%), Vegetable Fat, Cheese, Whey Powder, Salt, Yeast Exract, Nutmeg, Black Pepper, Vegetable Oil, Garlic, Spices & Herbs, Potato Starch, Malted Wheat Flour.

Okay I agree with most I should have checked the reverse of the label listing the above ingredients. But why does the front of the label not list Beef?

This is no different to buying a packet of Cheese & Ham sandwiches and finding that they contain Beef? Has it come to the point where we have to check sandwiches as well?

or

buying a Cheese & Ham Pizza, Cheese & Ham Toastie, Cheese & Ham Omlette you do not expect Beef meat in these products or do you?

If it were Gelatine or Rennet these would listed as such, or is beef rennet listed just as beef, I have no idea.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/02/2013 17:11

"I guess a ham and cheese meal is not a ham and cheese meal any more"..

Sorry , that was so melodramatic it made me Grin

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/02/2013 17:14

These are truly sad times Sad