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to ask you if you feel that people accused of sex crimes should have their identities protected?

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SoleSource · 20/02/2013 12:02

This debate was featured on the This Morning programme.

55% of the phone in poll voted yes.
45% voted no.

I would have voted yes because false allegations can destroy lives.

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TroublesomeEx · 20/02/2013 12:59

FolkGirl, even if there were no false accusations ever, some would be invented.

No, I know. Sad

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runningforthebusinheels · 20/02/2013 13:03

Mrs Devere - FFS! Did he go through all the rape myths, or just a couple of them ?

What a tosser.

And we wonder why rape myths are so pervasive in society.

ThePlEWhoLovedMe · 20/02/2013 13:14

I was accused of a range of sex crimes at work (along with many colleagues) - suspended and investigated by the police. Very pleased our identities were protected.

KellyElly · 20/02/2013 13:15

No, either all accused of crime should or none.

Wishiwasanheiress · 20/02/2013 13:16

Hmmm torn here. Gut reaction is that anonymous til convicted is fine. Once convicted put the name and picture in every paper in the land! I'm less convinced that merely being accused should merit publicity.

I don't understand why they reckon less women would report though, can this be explained? Also if the person once convicted then had more people come forward to say it happened to me too can't they then be tried on that new crime(s)? Or not? I find this gets confusing. Orzo they meAn a case gets stronger if more come forward at once?

What's odd is I don't feel murderers should get anonymity - not entirely sure why as both heinous crimes.

TroublesomeEx · 20/02/2013 13:18

So its all just a matter of consent and not really proper rape

Silly me, I thought that's what rape was. You know, the consent bit.

MisForMumNotMaid · 20/02/2013 13:23

If acused identity should be protected.

If evidence is sufficient for charges to be brought then i believe, please correct me if you know factualy this is wrong, it would come up on a future CRB check so its no longer something that could be contained as a secret.

IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou · 20/02/2013 13:26

I would vote no.

I think it is worse to be falsely accused of a sex crime than most other types of crime but being accused of being a thief or of committing fraud or being violent does damage your life too and nobody is suggesting that people accused of those crimes be granted anonymity.

1 in 4 women are raped/sexually assaulted but I don't believe 1 in 4 men are rapists. Men who rape, do it over and over and because there is so much emphasis on women lying and false accusations it makes it harder to get a conviction. Anything that helps other women come forward to help a case be built against a man should be encouraged.

Lives are damaged by false accusations but that has to be put in the balance with the lives that are damaged by men being allowed to continue to rape because of the inevitable one persons word against another which typifies prosecutions of men accused where there is a single victim.

OTTMummA · 20/02/2013 13:29

This shite again?!
How many is that this week?

Oh, and no, not ever.

SoleSource · 20/02/2013 13:32
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HairyHandedTrucker · 20/02/2013 13:32

no, why should they? murders don't, why do we assume rape vuctims are liars?

PeggyCarter · 20/02/2013 13:33

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sherbetpips · 20/02/2013 13:39

I think it something is going to trial then it is going to come out anyway. By that stage enough of a case has been build up agains the person to warrant a formal arrest and charge. What I dont agree with is the naming of every single person the police drag in to interview. Unless they can charge them and take it to court, they shouldnt be allowed to disclose names.

OTTMummA · 20/02/2013 13:40

Thank you for that lovely suggestion!
It is a bit concerning to say the least when this topic is bought up again for the 4th/5th time within a couple of days, not always with regards to this news story either. Even more exhastibating is that quite a few posters actually think this is a good idea!
Do any of those posters know how hard it is to get a case put forward for rape at all?
Sorry but we should be finding ways to find it easier and safer for people (manly women and children) to report rape, if you can't se why this would be a massive step forward then god help us all.

OTTMummA · 20/02/2013 13:41

step backwards

runningforthebusinheels · 20/02/2013 13:43

The Truth About False Rape Allegations

TheSeniorWrangler · 20/02/2013 13:49

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thezebrawearspurple · 20/02/2013 13:52

I support anonymity for both accused and accuser. To be falsely accused of rape is a crime in itself and for an innocent person to be falsely tarnished with that allegation for the rest of their lives even when found not guilty in court (because people, like many on here will believe that he just got away with it) and to experience the abuse and assaults against themselves and their family which come with having that 'reputation', to losing family, friends, becoming a social pariah, losing job prospects and basically having their life forever ruined is unjust.

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Angelfootprints · 20/02/2013 14:00

Is this just concerning rape though?

I knew a female teacher of sexually touching a female pupil. The girl made it up, but is was horrific for teacher.

So, say if one of your dc's friends had a sleepover and falsely accused you of a sexual crime against them during the night you would be happy for the whole world to know?

Or what if your dps female colleague falsely accused him of sexual harassment and your families name dragged through the mud despite no crime beimg committed?

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SonOfAradia · 20/02/2013 14:20

Nick Freeman is certainly a complete knob.

I say no anonymity for people accused of sex crimes. The vast majority of men do not commit rape, but those who are psychologically capable of it rarely do it once - other victims may come forward.

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