To think putting peanut oil in nappy cream is really silly?

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My 20 month old has many many allergies so my views may be skewed by this.

Hes allergic to all creams and nappy creams. After a recent bout of nappy rash (because of allergic reaction to nappies ) I was trying to find a nappy cream that didnt contain lanolin (which both bepanthen and sudocrem have) I came across Boots nappy cream. It seemed simple, caster oil and another main ingredient (cant remember now), not seeing lanolin, I bought it.

I got it home and checked the ingredients again and read through them slowly and found it had peanut oil in.

Surely this is a bad idea? You do not have to ingest peanuts for it to cause anaphylaxis. Allergies are growing, and dont they advise not trying peanuts on babies until they are older? And being extra wary if theres eczema and asthma (and obviously allergies) in the family?

Who thinks of peanut oil being in nappy cream?

And in the same breath Abidec baby/toddler vitamin supplements contain peanut oil. This is wrongly advised to parents if allergic children all the time!

Peanut oil, unless it's really expensive cold pressed stuff is not allergenic to most peanut allergy sufferers because it doesn't contain the protein that most people react to. I'm allergic to peanuts and am fine with stuff cooked in peanut oil.

yes it is daft to put anything other than what it says on the tub I mean really peanut oil I think it is a cheap base thats why it is used in creams, Have you tried 50/50 it is a castor oil based cream I used to get it at the chemist years ago they made it up for me no lanolin in it ( i dont think)

A friend of mine (who has a son with severe peanut allergy) asked me to make sure there was no peanut or lupin products in the creams etc I was using on my DD when she was a baby. Just to be on the safe side.

She certainly felt that exposure to this kind of product (her baby had been prescribed some cream which turns out had peanut oil in it) had been a factor in his developing the allergy.

YABU... peanut oil is great for the vast majority. If you remove all allergens from everything there's very little left.

I feel your pain though, I'm allergic to all sorts, as are my sons (not nuts though!) and it is an absolute PITA.

My children and I aren't allergic to olive oil, and that's what we use for pretty much everything (excema, nappy rash, everything!).

Find a basic ingredient that you're not allergic to and work with that as a starting point... you may have to experiment, you may have to make your own concoctions, it may seem like the whole world is against you but there is a way to DIY most soothing lotions, and you know exactly what's in what you make. Good luck.

But they are now thinking that non exposure may be the problem. The Eat study is looking at introducing peanuts at 3 months to see if that makes a difference.

'But they think non exposures the problem'

Thats ridiculous in itself though, naturally we we not feed out babies anything but milk, why would we give them peanuts?

And going along the lines of lack of exposure, milk allergy is quite common my son is anaphylactic to dairy, milk being the worst offender. Its nothing to do with not being exposed to it.

That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Aldiwhore I totally appreciate that peanut oil is good for some. But should we be putting it on bottos of babies who we havent yet established have peanut allergy yet?

Also, while Im on my soap box there are studies that show that its early exposure to any food at all that can cause allergies. Its the Virgin Gut theory.

Anything but breastmilk destroys the natural gut bacteria leaving them prone to allergies.

I'm just pointing outvwhere the current research is. Since the recommendation for weaning went up to 6 months allergies have grown hence the EAT study.

Also thought the virgin gut thing was just a theory without much evidence to back it up.

My rant about it making no sense was not at you for mentioning ut,It was just a rant generally.

Tbh Id bet allergies have always been increasing, so naturally would increase further after changing the weaning age guidelines.

Other European countries dont wean until later than 6 months, if the Eat theory was right then their allergies would be worse still. Which they are not.

Gut bacteria is being studied. Its being shown more and more what damages it, and what the consequences of that are.

I personally think vaccinations have a huge imapact on allergies. Its far too much for their immune system to take in one hit, it sends their immune system crazy. We're havin to avoid the MMR for those reasons. Which I hate. (Local practioner that does them individually wont touch us with a barge pole).

Other European countries do have different weaning advice but that is usually 4-6 months not later and your theory on allergies and vaccines are pretty much nonsense as well.

Zinc oxide cream will be good for nappy rash. Peanut oil is in a lot of things but isn't an allergen as far as I knew, but your right there are many allergen triggers in things that you wouldn't suspect. Like egg in pesto and almonds in some jam I bought. It's frustrating but you learn the products to avoid and accept that at some point your vigilance might not be enough.

Why are you speaking to me like an arse hole?

My son had tried yoghurt 10 times and after his last 3 fold vaccination the next time he ate a food (yoghurt) he went into anaphylactic shock. Specialists have agreed that it sent his immune system into over drive and made it over zelous. It was too much for his immune system to handle. Yes his immune system might have been 'fauty' in the first place. But had he not had those vaccinations perhaps his allergies wouldnt be so bad or even exist at all. Who knows.

It may be unusual, but it is certainly not nonsense.

I see you a bee in your littke bonnet WRT vaccinations www.mumsnet.com/Talk/behaviour_development/a1634687-Vaccinations

So I'll end the vaccination referrances there. Pointless arguing with a brick wall.

WRT to peanut oil proteins changing that is interesting, I didnt know that. I wonder what percentage of peanut allergy sufferers are ok with peanut oil.

Some people allergic to milk are ok with ok with cooked milk, but it tends to be those who are mildy allergic.

Look allergies appear at any time. My sons allergies appeared one weekend when he was 4 when his preschool boosters were due but he had his late. If he he'd it at that time it may have appeared the vaccines caused it but they were obviously didn't.
Most of what you have written has very little evidence to back it up.

peanut oil is a problem as is any nut oil in ezcema creams and baby products. used on broken skin counts as sensitizing to the allergen.

As for peanut oil , refinned peanut oil is the way to go as its heated to a high temp to change protein strands. But there is debate over safety for this, and its something worth asking an immunologist. It seems suitable for most with peanut allergy ( and for my son btw) but may not be for others.

I am quite sick of hearing of vaccination being the cause of allergies, when there are far more complicated than that, and personally I can trace a genetic history of allergies to my grandparents, and they werent blessed with a great deal of innoculations. and certainly they remember the time before polio, and we all dont want to go back to that time do we!

Im not 'blaming' vaccinations on allergies. Thats a huge thing to say.

I said I think it has an impact, it did on us.

Likewise, when my son gets a nasty illness (i.e a serious one not just a cold) he'll develop new allergies then also. Anything that tests his immune system basically.

I am very very pro vaccine. Dont get me wrong at all. I want him to have te MMR and I would vaccinate any future children but the fact is, my sons immunisations had an impact on him.

I understand it is irritating if you have an allergy and I agree it should be clearly labelled. I don't see why it shouldn't exist though, there is a market for it with babies who do not have a nut allergy.

the development of allergies, is part and parcel of being a multiple allergic person. its part of the atopic march, its part of hormones etc.

theres outgrowing and raising levels of rating, and lowering and new allergies developing. For our son thats the norm.

Try your dc the foods again if they showed an allergic reaction when under the weather. I think it's called a false positive, my dd is sensitive to lots of things when she's ill that she is not allergic to. Alhough the reactions she has are quite scary I just have to remind myself that dd is usually fine with that food and its only the illness making her sensitive to it. Dd has other odd reactions that have no corallation to anything. I blame her allergies to a Staph skin infection as a baby, the drugs they gave her wiped her tiny immune system so she lost any immunity she had and I feel this played a part but I may be completely wrong.

I did not touch peanuts whilst pg or bf DS1, as I followed the guidelines of the time to the letter. He had terrible eczema and nothing worked and one of the best things we used on his skin was Zinc and Castor oil cream.

I was abroad, and went to buy some more but was appalled to see it contained peanut oil. On return to the UK I discovered that the zinc and castor oil cream sold here does too, but here it is called "arachis oil" so I had had no idea.

Lets just say I was unsurprised, when he was allergy tested, to find he was allergic to peanuts as well as other things. This was well before advice was not to use creams containing peanuts on a child showing signs of being atopic. But it's not exactly rocket science to work out that if a child is not meant to be eating something, lest they develop an allergy to it, then it's not the best idea in the world to smear that something all over bleeding eczema.

I imagine it's possible to have got an exposure to peanuts some other way, but for me the cream remains the most likely candidate, as I was very anal conscientious about not eating any peanuts.

Weleda napy cream does not contain peanut oil.

oh damn, it contains lanolin though. Sorry.