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Colleague made racist remark on Facebook

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vivizone · 12/02/2013 21:35

Keeping the FB theme that's on here today!
Not her first time. I suspect she is a EDL/UKIP supporter. Always with her Daily Mail tucked under her arm.
I just feel so cross. Cross that I know this muppet and cross with myself for not saying anything. Made worse by another colleague 'liking' the comment and replying 'too right, too right'.
We work for a really professional organisation. A very well known org.

Would it be wrong to report it at work? I will delete both of them although the woman who wrote the status is a right loud bully. I am shocked and really disappointed in collg who commented. Quiet as a church mouse and she shares that type of thinking.
Both me and collg who commented on the status are non white if it makes any difference.
Sorry for typos. Typing on phone.

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PessaryPam · 13/02/2013 02:39

Oh Eliza600, I agree with you. Prepare for incoming, .

PessaryPam · 13/02/2013 02:40

Rhiannon, it like witch finding, same mindset.

Eliza600 · 13/02/2013 02:45

We're still living in a country with free speech, as far as I know.

Why on earth should peoples' Facebook statuses be scrutinised? Surely the decent thing would be to quietly unfriend that person if one feels offended by such a status, not get all drama-queeny about it?

HesterBurnitall · 13/02/2013 02:52

I'm disturbed to see such a robust defence of racism on MN. AIBU is renowned for being robust, but this thread is quite vile.

OP YANBU.

Rhiannon86 · 13/02/2013 02:55

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HesterBurnitall · 13/02/2013 03:05

Bollocks. The law already allows for people to be dismissed or prosecuted for voicing opinions. People aren't allowed to sexually or racially harass, for example, just by phrasing their abuse as an opinion. Nor is having and expressing an opinion a defence against libel or slander. Opinions are not sacrosanct, you can hold them but you are not always entitled to express them.

PessaryPam · 13/02/2013 03:09

And this dear reader is why I am so careful about who my facebook friends are.

Rhiannon86 · 13/02/2013 03:13

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Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 13/02/2013 03:29

So Eliza, your position is that free speech means: one person can say what they want, but it is inappropriate for other people to respond?

Also, those of you claiming to be well educated: can I suggest that you a) read Orwell before calling something "Orwellian", and b) research McCarthyism before drawing that parallel?

Of course people can and should be fired for their opinions, if those opinions are sufficiently hateful and harmful! I absolutely think it appropriate that someone who voices, publically, their assumption that all Muslims are violent terrorists, should not be employed in an organisation where that opinion has consequences.

PessaryPam · 13/02/2013 03:42

Just ones with large rucksacks on crowded buses, and there is some reasoning behind that fear.

snowtimelikethepresent · 13/02/2013 06:47

Somethingonce

Are you aware of your use of disablist language?

I think you must be referring to my use of c**n.

Sheesh, you are absolutely right, what a fucking idiot I am. Many many apologies for offence caused.

snowtimelikethepresent · 13/02/2013 06:49

Truth is, the England we knew has gone and most of us want it back.

Speak for yourself Eliza...this may be your (rather unpleasant) truth but it is not THE truth and I don't hold with it for a second.

RantyMcRantpants · 13/02/2013 06:52

Why not 'like' this EDL on Facebook, they are trying to get ahead of the other on google and spread the good word of tolerance and respect.

m.facebook.com/englishdiscolovers?id=187655488035282&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2Fsearch&_rdr

Southeastdweller · 13/02/2013 06:58

No decent employer would want someone who holds such views working for them.

Exactly olga

Good luck today viv if you're reading this.

snowtimelikethepresent · 13/02/2013 07:01

btw I have now reported my own post and hope that MNHQ will delete it. Unfortunately I made a really sound point in it so here is the bowdlerized version:

I don't recognise this country anymore; the smell was repugnant

I honestly don't think it is reading too much into it to think the fuckwit odious colleague was talking about immigrants from this. If I am being supersensitivce then I apologise but I would rather be so a million times that make crassly 'ambiguous' remarks of that kind.

ChairmanWow · 13/02/2013 07:28

Just ones with large rucksacks on crowded buses, and there is some reasoning behind that fear

No, there is no reasoning behind that fear. That comment is indefensible. This happened over 7 years ago. Are Muslims, or people you think look like Muslims, going to be punished forever because of an atrocity committed by a tiny extremist minority? That's like accusing all white people of being nail bombers because of the Soho nail bomb. A highly suspect view.

As for this perceived perfect England that's disappearing, good. I like living in multicultural Britain.

snowtimelikethepresent · 13/02/2013 07:35

ChairmanWow, spot on, again!

SaneAusten · 13/02/2013 08:37

OP YADNBU!! I would feel the same but also would double think going to bosses about this. She has young children and getting fired from her job won't change her mind (although it may deter her from being so vocal next time?). It's disheartening how things are at the moment. Have strength against these views, try not to let it affect you and believe that they are the minority. Not you.

PessaryPam · 13/02/2013 08:41

Oh that's Ok then ChairmanWow, I hadn't heard that AQ had dropped their antipathy to all things western. There was me still thinking that we in the UK are regarded as the Little Satan.

snowtimelikethepresent · 13/02/2013 08:44

PessaryPam nothing of what you say detracts one iota from Chairman's point: in fact you pretty much prove it.

And this is where I stop cheerleading for Chairman lest people think I am a scok puppet!

FirstTimeForEverything · 13/02/2013 08:56

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Rhiannon86 · 13/02/2013 09:05

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snowtimelikethepresent · 13/02/2013 09:07

Rhiannon

No.

HTH

snowtimelikethepresent · 13/02/2013 09:12

Okay my last was a bit PA so here's my thinking

The statement is based on a fallacy. For one thing, it simply isn't true that the Union Flag gives offence. When hijacked and used as an emblem of racism it does, and rightly so, but when properly used as part of pagentary or, say, the Olympic games, it simply does not.

Secondly, why WOULD benefits offend anyone; they are supposed to be a boon.

Finally there is a complete and utter disconnect between the two parts of the statement, the second is, it seems to me, a complete non sequitur from the first.

gordyslovesheep · 13/02/2013 09:15

Truth is, the England we knew has gone and most of us want it back

England was BUILT on immigration - we have had a large African population since Tudor times for starters

you are pining for something that never existed - why not buy a remote ilsand and you can eat roast beef and morris dance in peace

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