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Aibu to see vagina wall as good for young girls

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Everincreasingirth · 11/02/2013 19:29

I while ago I saw on t.v a piece of art/sculpture called the great vagina wall (I think.you can google it) it consisted of lots of casts of various women's vaginas put together in frames. They were not pornographic or erotic but does show how there is no normal to how a woman looks and that we all look different . The artist was saying he did it to help women who were considering plastic surgery on their genitals maybe see it wasn't needed. It might not be something I would go and see but it was a very powerful image. So when my sil said she was worried about my two dn age 14 and 16 opinions on their body image and peer pressure etc I suggested that the vagina wall might be something useful to show them how diverse everyone is. I was quite shocked by her reaction which was basically saying I should not look at such filth and she would never expose her daughters to such a thing. This has left me feeling really upset. I just wondered what other people think.

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kalidanger · 11/02/2013 20:02

An acquaintance of mine's foof is in that wall

If I had a DD I'd be terrified of the weird ideas she is orobably picking up and would take her to see the wall.

My jaw is still on the floor from a sex ed tv thing that showed teens with no pubes :facepalm: And teens not breast feeding because their mates call the slags for having their tits out Sad

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Everincreasingirth · 11/02/2013 20:10

The more I think about it the more I think I was correct to see this as a good thing and not "filth" . Not sure I would ever have the nerve to expose my own bits though. Find it encouraging that so many of you on here though agree it's not a bad thing.

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SoleSource · 11/02/2013 20:13

Which one is your friends foof kalidanger?

RedHotRudieParts · 11/02/2013 20:23

I have the sculptor on my Facebook !

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Everincreasingirth · 11/02/2013 20:37

Why did your friend decide to put herself on the wall Kalidanger? Did she regret it or is she quite proud? Really don't think I could but wish I was secure enough in my own body image to show the world I was happy. I would love my dns and my own dd to grow up feeling less pressure than I do now to fit in to an unrealistic body shape. I am now thinking that maybe I should have started this thread on the feminist bit rather than Aibu as I am interested in how this is viewed over there.

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Shenanagins · 11/02/2013 20:43

Little machine you are right it was on the sex education show along with willies.

it was done very well especially as teens today have access to much more graphic images than we ever did and apparently it is affecting their perception of what is normal.

SoleSource · 11/02/2013 20:44

Nthing stopping you posting this tbread in feminism Ever. Go for it just explain.

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Everincreasingirth · 11/02/2013 20:46

How do I go about moving it to the feminist threads? I am not sure how to do that????

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SoleSource · 11/02/2013 20:49

If I was you I would go to Feminism post thread,explain you posted here and leave a post here explaining where the thread is now and why.

quoteunquote · 11/02/2013 20:52

I should not look at such filth and she would never expose her daughters to such a thing

Her poor DDs.

I wonder why she so worried about it.

SorryMyLollipop · 11/02/2013 21:16

How about these?

Or these?

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Everincreasingirth · 11/02/2013 22:01

Sorrymylollipop... The difference between those images is that the ones you link to are medical pictures where as the vagina wall sculpture is a piece of art. Not sure why or indeed if that matters but does make a difference I think

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VisualiseAHorse · 11/02/2013 22:07

Yay - free the flaps!!

I love love love the Great Wall of Vagina. Brilliant piece. It is good to see as it's something that is generally hidden, to show exactly what 'normal' is.

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Everincreasingirth · 11/02/2013 22:11

Have you seen it in real life? Or just on t.v? Think I would like to see the real thing now so really knew what I was talking about. Would love to take disapproving sil with me

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LadyRainicorn · 11/02/2013 22:18

I don't know how I'd show my dds but I feel happier about vulvas in general. Thanks for the link

HollaAtMeBaby · 11/02/2013 23:20

YANBU! Bring on the fanny parade, I say. Thanks

SomethingOnce · 11/02/2013 23:37

How about a copy of the Cunt Colouring Book, instead?

purplelamp · 12/02/2013 00:14

The Wall is currently in Milan, and is there until mid-March, fwiw!

Have posted on your other thread, but what a sad reaction from your SIL :(

Ozziegirly · 12/02/2013 03:18

How do you do a cast of your vag, out of interest?

Is it like papier mache, or clay?

bedhaven · 12/02/2013 03:55

I'm in it! They use an alginate thick paste to mould, bit like dental work.
Most women and most men for that matter never see the diversity of vulvae. We're all so different, I'm proud to be part of showing that.

Ozziegirly · 12/02/2013 04:32

Well that's two things I've learnt today - how to take a cast of my bits, and the plural of vulva.

SorryMyLollipop · 12/02/2013 17:56

OP, I am aware of the difference between art and photos, it depends on your reasons for showing the vulvas. The photos do a good job of showing natural variation/normal range etc, the Great Wall of vaginas is more celebratory of the female form. I think both are helpful and positive but for different reasons.

sleepyhead · 12/02/2013 18:15

Yay bedhaven! I'd definitely do it. It's not like there'd be a label saying "sleepyhead's bits".

I think it's really interesting. I do think more and more teens are seeing porn and the huge downside to universal pubic depilation is that that whole area is way more on show. It wouldn't have occurred to me as a teen to have an opinion on my own vulva, never mind anyone elses.

sleepyhead · 12/02/2013 18:17

I was quite surprised by the number of warty looking vulvas, until I realised they were piercings Blush

JamieandtheMagicTorch · 12/02/2013 18:20

Just out of interest why do few of you/ us refer tonthese as vulvas? They aren't strictly speaking vaginas, are they? Vulva ( the word) doesn't seem to be used as much.