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to be fed up about Grandparents complaining about not seeing their grandchildren

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Seabird72 · 30/01/2013 12:40

Every time another report comes out from Age Concern about lonely older people and it's all finger pointing at their children and grandchildren ignoring them in their time of need - being too busy with their own lives to even pop in and say hello or pick up the phone - it is driving me mad - yes some elderly people have been treated terribly by their families when they have done so much for their children/grandchildren but there are also a huge number of families out there who have struggled to get their parents interested in their grandchildren.

My own parents basically felt that working and cleaning the house were more important than spending any time with me or my brother - there weren't many family holidays or days out, playing board games or having a story read and don't get me started on lack of involvement regarding school issues/homework/exams etc - the first thing I was told when I had dd1 was not to expect any free babysitting - well I didn't as we lived miles away but my parents idea of being involved grandparents was one trip every few years to visit us and stay a few hours - we were never really invited to theirs except for the odd christmas and only then if we weren't expecting to stay over. We were even banned from their lives for 2 years after once going to visit to drop off presents for dad's birthday and then asking if we could pop out shopping for a couple of hours - hubby actually suggested that since we got no free time to ourselves perhaps we should sneak off for a meal as well but I said no - when we got back I found out that dd1 then aged 6, had been naughty by running around and wouldn't stop when told so had been smacked. I didn't say anything against this form of punishment but after 2 days of silence my parents rang to say that because she had been so naughty they never wanted to see her again. After 2 years they changed their minds but still didn't really want to socialise with us - we had one more christmas with them and finally dd3 was invited to go and stay for a week 2 years ago which she loved.

Hubby's parents aren't much better - they want to "see" the children but don't want to take them out for days or entertain them - they just expect the kids to sit and listen to adult conversations (which mostly are about who has died lately in the village and all their health problems).

I have got upset in the past as I had hoped my parents would take more of an interest in their grandchildrens' lives but even when they telephone, they don't ask about what the kids have been up to - if invited to visit they make their excuses and if we ask to visit them, again excuses are made until finally they give in but of course it's a long journey (4 hours each way). People say to me that it's their loss but it's also the loss of my children who haven't been able to form the bonds with their grandparents on either side that I had with my own grandparents. Then to read articles about how lonely so many elderly people are and to know that actually, sometimes it's their own fault and not the fault of their children/grandchildren - well it just makes me seeth with frustration.

So to all those grandparents out there - if you're not seeing as much of your grandchildren as you would like - call them and invite them to stay during the next school hols - us parents will be grateful and the grandkids will probably love it - but don't think it's all because they don't want to see you - you HAVE to want to see them too and that will mean getting to know their likes and dislikes and being prepared that they may be naughty if they're small or bored if they're teenagers unless you have sky tv or a computer - but at least they will still be spending time with you and please STOP CALLING IT FREE CHILDCARE!!!! It's family - you can't put a financial figure on it - you do it out of love.

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CreepyLittleBat · 30/01/2013 22:21

Sockreturningpixie you are a genius.

elizaregina · 30/01/2013 22:51

trees - talk to her - chat...say you would love to see him more but you understand thier time with him is precious....say you dont want to intrude and you would rather she told you if you were.

I heard a great lady on a radio four phone in - saying that her DIL wrote her a stiff email when she thought she was being too pushy and intrusive. she did sound bolshy on the phone but in a nice way. She said she was soo glad her DIl was french and able to do this - because it got it out in the open - and she was able to adjust her own behaviour accodringly and therefore - they could all get on, she said she had a fab relationship with her DIL and her grandchildren. she said had the DIL not written her this email - she would probably have harboured restentment to her and in the end - affected relations with the GC.

what a great lady. the goal is to get on - lets put egos aside and work together to get on for the GC. ( she did say intitally she was shocked and hurt by the email, who wouldnt be - BUT the pay off was the realtionships she has now).

ladydepp · 30/01/2013 23:07

Ditto here, my mil plays the doting granny routine but actually wants very little to do with her gc. She likes having lots of photos all over her house of them and I am sure her friends get the impression she is super hands on, but she never offers to help out with them. Tis frustrating! If I am ever lucky enough to be a granny I will have to be peeled off my gc! Grin

My DM is even worse, we visit her for 2 weeks a year and she just spends the time looking at them vaguely and then talking about how much she'll miss us when we go. She barely interacts with her gc, never comes out with us for outings and I can tell that my 3 dc's don't really get the point of us seeing her. Sad, but as someone said she won't exactly be inundated with visitors in her nursing home one day......

treesntrees · 30/01/2013 23:36

Thanks elizaregina I will have to psyche myself up to do that. Despite being in my seventies I have very low esteem. I did invite the DIL and grandson to tea one day recently and have been thinking of repeating the invitation.

Bogeyface · 31/01/2013 00:04

My best friend was told that she was a bad daughter because she didnt visit her mum enough and because her mum didnt see her grandaughters. This was from her mums best friend.

Her mum will make every excuse under the sun to not visit or host her DD and GDD and then is clearly telling her friends that it is her DD's fault!

YANBU

2aminthemorning · 31/01/2013 20:35

My hubby's parents do not see our DD (aged one). I do worry about the suffering PIL are going through, and the relationships DD is missing out on.

2aminthemorning · 31/01/2013 20:48

trees - I second Eliza in talking or perhaps writing a friendly note. If you spoke with the graciousness of your post here, I think it would be a very unreasonable DIL who would take offence.

Say:
-how much you respect the wonderful job she's doing with your GC (you only wish you'd been half as good when it was your turn);
-that you treasure the times you have been able to spend with both her and GC;

  • that you would love to see GC a little more often, either on his own or with her, but you completely understand if it doesn't fit in with their plans.
-You wanted to get something down on paper in case there was a misunderstanding about your willingness to be a 'hands-on' grannie when, and if, it was required. -You realise that you are not very good at showing your feelings sometimes and you hope DIL won't mind that you've resorted to a letter.

You just want to finish by saying you're so glad DS has found such a beautiful person (inside and out) to share his life with.

The end.

BadMissM · 05/02/2013 15:06

My (retired, fairly affluent, have a car) parents live 200 miles away. They aren't currently speaking to me because I wouldn't use up all of my precious 22 days holiday a year taking DD to see them. They have said I am not welcome, yet complain they don't see DD. She is too young to travel down by herself (and I can't afford it). DH and I are not welcome in house, and is too far to do there and back in a day (as only DH can drive).

When I left ex-H, and lived around the corner they never came to see me but I was expected to bring DD to see them every day before or after work. Yet if I asked them to babysit they were 'too busy'..they never go out.

Ex MIL hasn't seen DD or asked to since I left Ex-H. The only communication I had was a threat to take me to court for custody....

Now am pg again...at 45. Haven't even bothered telling my parents yet.

Ormiriathomimus · 05/02/2013 15:09

I suspect the ones that want to see their grandchildren and aren't happy about being ignored are not neccessarily the same ones who were crappy parents and don't deserve the time and attention Hmm

And IME GPs would like to see children and grandchildren together, they don't want to just act as babysitters.

atthewelles · 05/02/2013 15:14

Obviously, some grandparents are complete shits who ignore their DGC and then moan and whinge that 'no one comes to visit us' and I can totally understand the resentment and upset of some of the posters on this thread.

But I suspect they are in the minority. I am sometimes Shock at some of the threads I read on here by DILs and feel terribly sorry for some of their MILs who seem to have to walk on eggshells to avoid being criticised or accused of 'taking over' their grandchildren.

Ormiriathomimus · 05/02/2013 15:15

And FWIW I feel incredibly guilty about my parents. We see them once a week usually - and it's often only when they pick up the children after school and I pop in to have dinner with them and take the kids home. We hardly every go to see them at the weekend and can rarely do anything to help them out (not that they usually ask). DH and both work and have 3 kids so don't have a lot of time. I suspect that there are a lot of adult children out there who are in the same boat, no time, no energy left over at the end of a busy week, and who live miles away from their parents. It doesn't mean it's malicious or deliberate, but I am guessing a lot of grandparents are left in a bit of a limbo position - want to be involved more but feel they aren't wanted.

Kat101 · 06/02/2013 19:25

Ormiriathomimus - we are in exactly this position and its very tricky. We both work, 3 kids age 7 and under, IL's live 5 hours drive (and £90 fuel return journey). We just cant go to them more than a few times a year, by Friday night we're absolutely knackered, and the packing, preparation and journey is out of the question.

MIL would like to be involved more, but she did herself a disservice when she abandoned driving and doesn't like public transport so it relies on everyone making a superhuman effort to accommodate her. The IL's try and suggest holidays for us all to go on but that doesn't work either - 3 young children on a holiday geared for well off semi retired business people would be hugely stressful to us and we can only afford one holiday a year, so are currently breaking away from the previous compromises of UK cottages. No doubt MIL feels unwanted but we're at our limit and we do what we can.

MyDarlingClementine · 06/02/2013 19:57

When one thinks of the word " Grandparents", it can conjur images of kindly old folk with twinkling eyes and profound wisdom and kindness.

The reality is they are just people who have had children.

If they did not get on with thier own children and there are family issues sadly in the more extreme cases those issues will not go away with the arrival of GC.

Indeed the issues can become worse because they want something and they have the parents in the middle - to get round.

shash1982 · 31/08/2013 18:47

I understand to an extent. My mil wants act like the doting gp but she doesn't seem to want to spend any time woth them. She may pop over for 20mins here or there but nevet does she ask if she can take them to feed he ducks or play at the park or anything like that.

U reap what u sow & if she can't be bothered to spend any quality time gettig to know them, with us there or not, then I won't be forcing my dc's to spend time with her when she's older I'm afraid. Especially when she spends souch of her time with her other gc who only call her when they need her!

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