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To think that Frankie Boyle is a despicable human being?

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MiniEggsinJanuary · 29/01/2013 23:06

Just flicked on to an old episode of Mock the Week to find Frankie Boyle. I had forgotten about him and why he was so controversial so I googled and read the Wikipedia section on controversy about him. I knew he was a racist bigot but didn't realise he also made fun of disabled children. Please tell me I am not being unreasonable to think that he doesn't deserve the fees he must get when his programmes are repeated on Dave?

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MrsWolowitzerables · 29/01/2013 23:36

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ThedementedPenguin · 29/01/2013 23:37

Yabvu, that's my opinion I find him extremely funny.

Yes he does go too far sometimes, and I was quite shocked at some things he said but I do find him funny.

Also yes he successfully sued a newspaper for calling him racist.

I agree with others you don't have to watch his shows!

MiniEggsinJanuary · 29/01/2013 23:37

Very good point Samantha. As I have now conveyed twice, I wasn't watching him voluntarily, he happened to be on a programme I happened to flick on to. I did switch him off.
I have very serious concerns about the moral standards of people who think he's funny. I guess they'll just have to wait until he says something which insults a group which affects them directly. Some people clearly don't have enough imagination to work out what is unacceptable unless it directly targets them.
As for wanting him to be banned from mainstream TV - I wouldn't campaign for it but I wouldn't be adverse to it.

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MiniEggsinJanuary · 29/01/2013 23:40

I'll also point out that successfully sueing a newspaper who accused him of being racist, doesn't make him not racist!!! It simply means that a very clever lawyer was able to argue his case and find loopholes in the law which meant that he could get a relatively small (in litigious terms) amount of money from a media giant. Doesn't prove a thing.

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Harriet35 · 29/01/2013 23:40

And what if someone you liked was banned from mainstream TV? I hate smug PC comedians like Jack Whitehall and Marcus Brigstocke but I wouldn't want them banned from telly because other people like them. Censorship is never good.

FreudiansSlipper · 29/01/2013 23:41

Concerned about my moral standards now that is funny :o

ThedementedPenguin · 29/01/2013 23:44

I do agree that he goes to far at times, but seriously everyone knows what he does. It's a joke (in a twisted way) I don't believe he means it.

He takes the piss out of EVERYONE! Not just a certain group of people. Have you ever watched any if his DVDs the people in the audience are abused by him.

I get that the op didn't put his show on, but if you don't like him and come across him just switch it over.

Fanjounchained · 29/01/2013 23:47

As much as I dislike the guy I do think he is very articulate and intelligent...but there is no overlooking the fact that some of the stuff he says is simply sick. He has a kids, as someone mentioned above, I very much doubt he would be cracking jokes about disabilities if his own children were affected. He's a dick...sometimes funny, but still a dick.

MariusEarlobe · 29/01/2013 23:48

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KobayashiMaru · 29/01/2013 23:51

have you any sort of proof that he is a "racist bigot"? Thats a pretty big to say about someone, so presumably you can show us why this is true?

BumBiscuits · 29/01/2013 23:52

Oh of course, minieggs, I forgot the Mirror don't have access to very clever lawyers.

blindworm · 29/01/2013 23:52

He just sued a newspaper who called him racist and won, and gave the £50,000 damages to charity.

Harriet35 · 29/01/2013 23:54

Would you rather he just made jokes about "nasty Tories" and other safe topics to get an easy cheer from a BBC audience nowadays? Comedians are supposed to be challenging.

apostropheuse · 29/01/2013 23:55

He's a disgusting, cruel bastard.

I can't stand the vile little man.

Harriet35 · 29/01/2013 23:57

He isn't little is he? I always thought he was quite a big bloke.

apostropheuse · 30/01/2013 00:01

He as a man, as a whole person, is little, his physical height isn't.

Harriet35 · 30/01/2013 00:02

Stick to your safe comedians and leave Frankie to people who aren't so easily offended.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt · 30/01/2013 00:05

He is a really clever bloke which makes his nasty disgusting 'jokes' even more reprehensible.

Yes, he makes jokes about everyone, coz its bloody hilarious making 'jokes' involving sex (ffs) about disabled children who can't defend themselves. That is hilarious. Angry

He is a very sinister man.

blindworm · 30/01/2013 00:06

I don't like jokes about Down's or Harvey Price but I prefer him to Jack Whitehall.

Fanjounchained · 30/01/2013 00:07

Harriet35 - what the fuck is challenging about a comedian who choses to poke fun at the vunerable people in society. Did you piss yourself laughing at bullies at school too ?

I'm not into safe comedians either...just not into pricks like Frankie Boyle..

AKissIsNotAContract · 30/01/2013 00:08

I don't agree with censorship but he is a total cunt and I'd have a hard time liking anyone who found him funny. In the future I think disablist jokes will be looked upon in the same way that racist jokes from the 1970s are now.

MiniEggsinJanuary · 30/01/2013 00:10

Ok, so he won his case so clearly he is not a racist bigot. This is what the opposition argued:

"Ronald Thwaites QC, for MGN, argued that Mr Boyle was a "racist comedian" and said the newspaper would claim that its use of the word "racist" was a fair opinion.

He said Mr Boyle used negative stereotyping of black people "usually in a sexual context".

"What he has done is to take the negative stereotype of black people and exploit that for cheap laughs gratuitously," Mr Thwaites told jurors.

"This is not part of some intellectual cause. This is not part of some clever message." "

His defence was that he was "vile" but not racist. He won, ergo he is not racist and therefore certainly not a racist bigot.

He still said all of the other things about disabled children however. I find that to be enough to find him despicable.

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apostropheuse · 30/01/2013 00:11

People who aren't offended by Frankie Boyle's material ought to be.

No human being should feel that the things that comes out of that man's mouth are in any way shape or form acceptable.

It's actually not cool or clever.

apostropheuse · 30/01/2013 00:13

Oh and I am certainly not easily offended

BumBiscuits · 30/01/2013 00:13

An argument in a case MGN lost.

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