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to think judging ignorance is wrong?

39 replies

ChaosTrulyReigns · 28/01/2013 22:56

Bear with me.

If someone has lack of knowledge or protocol, should they be judged?

Where does the ingnorance come from?

For example, if someone one here writes "their going to the zoo?" surely the fault lies with the education taht they have had, or perhaps dyslexia - so to judge would surely be unreasonable?

Anither example, if I went to a Mosque and didn't take of my shoes, through sheer lack of awareness, perhaps my host should be judged for not informing me of the requirement?

I'm sure there are many more examples, but I'm struggling to believe that ignorance is really ever the fault of the individual, but that feels rather cop-outish, iyswim?

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ChaosTrulyReigns · 29/01/2013 15:00

Hah!

Just got your name, then.

[lightbulb]

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ChaosTrulyReigns · 29/01/2013 15:01

but you'd look so much purtier with capitals

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ChaosTrulyReigns · 29/01/2013 15:04

Well, you floks have open my eyes again, I had never considered wilful ignorance before. So I can now cogitate on that. Smile I'll

Here's a paradox.

Are people who are ignorant as to ignorant's true meaning it doesn't friffing mean ruude actually ignorant?

Hmm...

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saintlyjimjams · 29/01/2013 15:05

Depends what it is, I'm not fussed about spellings etc.

But I often come across ignorant (in the true sense of the word) people when out and about with ds1 (severely autistic teenager). Some ignorant people take the opportunity to ask lots of questions (what's wrong with him, can he talk, will he talk, how does he communicate, does he understand what is said, is it difficult etc etc), other ignorant people stay silent or smile a bit. Either of those responses are absolutely fine.

Another group of ignorant people huff, puff, sigh, tut, shake their heads, swear at us, put their hands on their hips,, look at us like we're a piece of dirt, and generally do what they can to make me feel bad. I judge those people as being ignorant, stupid, unpleasant, worthless, idiotic fools who I want nowhere near me.

ChaosTrulyReigns · 29/01/2013 15:05

And using ignorant in an ingorant way?

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Absy · 29/01/2013 15:23

Um, um, I have no idea.

I would like to caveat my responses with - I'm a geek. So NOT wanting to find out random crap is alien to me so I judge people who aren't like that.

amillionyears · 29/01/2013 15:43

Judging people, who for whatever reason, find something difficult to learn.No

Judging people who are not interested in finding out something. No not really, eg if you are flying to a country, but dont have much idea where that country actually is. Doesnt matter much in the big scheme of things.

Judging people who do things wrong,but didnt know, like your cricket match example, no.

But people who say, are in a job that they are being paid for, and as part of their job should know or find out how to do x y z. The yes,they are out of order.
Revelling in ignorance, when something is easy to learn,and they are winding someone up, eg repeatedly getting the name of a child wrong, yes.

HecateWhoopass · 29/01/2013 15:50

Grin it is the whooping of asses, but it sounds better and scarier if you make it sound like a cracking whip Wink

ChaosTrulyReigns · 29/01/2013 23:29
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maddening · 30/01/2013 06:38

Re the cricket example - so you allowed dc somewhere they shouldn't be, you judged by other's reactions that it was wrong and moved your dc- once that happened were people still judging you?

maddening · 30/01/2013 06:39

Shit sorry didn't realise we had moved on to s&m - must remember to read to the bottom!

HecateWhoopass · 30/01/2013 09:56

Oh yes.

That's me.

No boden or mumsnet scarf for me.

Leather and whips all the way.

[scary as hell emoticon]

lainiekazan · 30/01/2013 10:07

I don't like ignorance worn as a Badge Of Honour.

eg "What did you think about [insert random newsworthy event]?
other person: "Oh, I don't follow the news."

or "I'm really enjoying 50 Shades of Maroon"
other person: "I don't have the time to read"

It seems so much better to reply with, "No, sorry I didn't read Closer this week, what did it say about X?" or "I haven't kept up with the Syria situation, what's going on?"

So many people try to imply that you are the saddo for knowing anything.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 30/01/2013 10:34

I judge people who use ignorance as an excuse to be mean. I am perfectly well aware that people who bang on about immigrants getting masses of benefits are ignorant, but they are also being shitty people, so I do judge. Likewise people who witter about how you couldn't possibly study English and not learn to spell are probably pretty ignorant, but they're also being mean.

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