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To not want my newborn to have contact with my Dad's side of the family...?

13 replies

Bambi86 · 20/01/2013 10:25

Ok, this is a long one...please bear with me. I'm 26, expecting DC1 and a secondary school teacher in the area where I grew up.

My dad's side of the family are trouble. Don't get me wrong I'm no snob, my mother grew up in the same village as my dad, but had a different upbringing to my dad. My parents brought my siblings and me in a "rough" area, but managed to instil a sense of morals. My parents are very much working class, and emphasised the importance of education and living life with a sense of knowing what is right from wrong.

Basically, even from a young age, going to visit my Dad's family scared the hell out of me. My cousins were allowed to swear, skip school and do whatever they wanted. As a young child, it was a scary place to be- there were no rules and no love. I saw my Nan (dad's mum) and Aunt (Dad's sister) regularly swear at my cousins, hit them and throw them out over the years. Not once did I see any love between that side of the family. Every visit, I just used to sit there frozen on the sofa hoping that it would all be over soon. My nan never told my siblings and me that she loved us and regularly forgot out birthdays.

Mum soon stopped visiting with us. I felt "forced" to go with my dad out of guilt (from him) during my early teenage years. I hated my dad for that. (My dad is pretty clueless when it comes to family, but then again with a family like his how is he to know better? - my parents are now divorced and my dad is emotionally constipated. He was much better when he was with my mum, who was very open with expressing her love and emotions)

Over the years my cousins have become teenage parents, drug addicts, school refusers and convicted criminals. My Nan and Aunt seem to think that this is "normal" and that we are the weridos for getting an education and wanting a better life. My nan and aunty are also foster parents (god know's how?) and they treat their foster children like shit! They have openly admitted in the past that they just do it for the money - money that they use for their own personal holidays whilst they leave their foster children in respite!!!

My dad worked bloody hard when we were younger, and his family (all on benefits) would always manage to get thousands of pounds from him and fail to pay it back.

When I turned 17 I decided that I was no longer going to be "forced" into seeing this side of the family. This didn't go down to well, but I was sick of feeling on edge every time I visited. I would end up arguing with them every time they were racist/homophobic/generally ignorant....My dad would never stand up for me, and would just sit there in silence. My dad in no way believes the crap that comes out of their mouths, but has never stood up for himself, my mum or us when it comes to his family bad mouthing us.

Over the years Dad has stopped asking me to visit, and it's pretty much a given that I have made up my mind. My siblings still visit (20 and 24) and this does make me feel guilty....

So.....fast forward to now. I am 30 weeks, and have decided that I do not want my baby anywhere near that side of the family. I keep remembering how scared and disorientated I felt, and I do not want that for my son. I teach teenagers in a very rough area, and I see what bad parenting can lead to - it's like watching my cousins all over again.

I've voiced this to my siblings, who have told my dad. He's not happy, and feels as though I'm being a snob.

So...AIBU for keeping my baby away from that side of the family? How do I help my dad (emotionally constipated, incapable of talking about emotions/feelings/anything remotely deep) understand my decision?

Thank you

OP posts:
ratbagcatbag · 20/01/2013 10:32

Absolutely not bu. I haven't seen my dad in years as he behaves like your dads family. Tough if he doesn't like it, do not let people like this be around your child, you're not being a snob, you are trying to shield your child away from some of the discomfort you felt as a child.

As for your dad, I have no idea and would probably end up pushing my dad issues in with yours which wouldn't give you a balanced view :) I do think if he's been like this fir some time like forever the mn mantras of no is a complete sentence and you can't change their reaction but how you react to theirs may help.

Congrats btw I'm 30 weeks today too.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 20/01/2013 10:33

Nope. Not unreasonable at all.

You may be a big U if you expect your dad to feel great about this, though. You need to stick to your guns, remind your dad that you love him, and ignore his comments.

You're the mother and you know what's best for you and your family. Keep on doing what you're doing.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 20/01/2013 10:33

Oops. I mean "a bit U" not "a big U."

HollyBerryBush · 20/01/2013 10:36

I understand. My father was brought up by his grandmother - really because his father was much the same stock as you describe.

My father had nothing to do with his fathers side, neither do I - they don't know I exist, well they'll all be dead now.

just because there is a tenuous blood link doesnt mean you have to bother with them. you don't have a relationship with them, just forget they existed.

GregBishopsBottomBitch · 20/01/2013 10:38

So nbu, your baby, its your shield it from such awful people, and thats what your doing.

ZillionChocolate · 20/01/2013 10:39

YANBU. I suppose you ought to imagine how you'd feel if your grandmother died. If you'd still be happy with your choice then that's fine.

andtheycalleditbunnylove · 20/01/2013 10:43

i don't care whether you're a snob or not. in fact, if being a snob makes you want to be with nice people rather than horrible ones, i'd support you in it.

do not take your baby anywhere near those horrible people.

let your dad visit you and the baby, in your home, on your terms. you don't have to show off the baby to them. they don't own your baby - all the stuff people tell you about a baby belonging to a family or a village is crap someone made up to get their hands on someone else's lovely newborn.

follow your instincts and make the best life you can for your baby. a life filled with caring people. when i think about my grandaughter, everyone in her family loves her, hangs on her every word (she has a few words. 'shoes!' 'narna!' - she likes shoes and bananas), no-one would want to be cold towards her. it was the same for my daughter and it works really well as a way of bringing up your child. love them and keep them away from nasty people!

HecateWhoopass · 20/01/2013 10:46

Hell no.

You don't owe ANYONE a place in your life. Doesn't matter how closely they match you genetically.

That's meaningless guff that is normally used to emotionally blackmail someone into taking a great big pile of nasty SHIT off people instead of telling them to go to hell.

badtemperedaldbitch · 20/01/2013 10:46

I share your feelings although mine are towards my siblings rather than my parents, though they wouldn't win any awards.....

I had a 6 month old and I asked my dad to keep her safe from them. He said "my familiar responsibility extends as far as my children"

Within 6 months we had moved 300 miles away. Dd sees my side of the family once or twice a year. She understands the difference between us and them. She is 9 now.

Yes they think I'm a snob and I don't care
Dad thinks I chose dh's family over his........

I wonder why!

Stick to your guns and do what you thinking is right for you and yours.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 20/01/2013 10:47

Not unreasonable at all, DC's have no contact with DH's sister, his choice, for stuff that her and her husband do.

DoodlesNoodles · 20/01/2013 10:49

YANBU. Dont worry about it and enjoy your baby.

Locketjuice · 20/01/2013 10:56

I would have just not said anything but avoid them..
My oh family are complete twats! Couldn't give two shits about me or my little one, they are straight out rude to me when I visited with oh and baby it caused such a drama when I spoke to oh and said I'm not going there anymore.. Now I realised not saying anything about it but if it every arises to visit make my excuses and no more drama with oh and no having to visit awful family!

CaseyShraeger · 20/01/2013 11:07

So you've not seen them for nine years? Why would anyone in your family think that you were suddenly going to start visiting again now? I don't see why this is some big decision that you feel the need to announce to your siblings or they feel the need to announce to your dad.

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