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to not want people who are just over the sickness bug to come and visit us and our newborn baby

24 replies

whatdoithinknow · 20/01/2013 07:26

Our ds is one week old today and my not so dp has invited his eldest children over as it is a special occasion but I'm really not happy with fact that one of them was ill all night with norovirus Thursday night and as far as I can tell just on the mend now. Its not even like I could just keep the littlest one at a distance as we have a toddler aswel so she is bound to catch any bugs coming into house which is just what I don't want!....us all getting it. Aibu to want to say no you cant come today give it a while? I know my dp will not be happy if I say no but shouldn't the health of our newborn be more important than not upsetting a 16 year old? He is after all old enough to understand?

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HecateWhoopass · 20/01/2013 07:33

The official advice for this is isolation for 48 hours after symptoms end.

So if it's less than that since they last vomited or had the runs - then tell them no.

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You have a 1 week old. Noro is particularly dangerous for infants.

If there is a risk - don't take it.

HecateWhoopass · 20/01/2013 07:34

Also have to consider the other children. If they have been exposed, they may not yet be showing symptoms but may be infectious.

CSIJanner · 20/01/2013 07:36

When was the last time she was sick? BTW YANBU. I can understand his excitement for a new sibling for hidden but the man needs to engage brain. However when the siblings do meet, make a big fuss of them all.

Congratulations on your new daughter!!

BouncyPenguin · 20/01/2013 07:37

YANBU Trust your mother's instinct. The Health Protection Agency say children should stay away from school for 48 hours after their last episode of sickness or diarhoea. You do not want your baby getting sick but it can happen. My DS caught whooping cough at 3 weeks old before the epidemic became public knowledge. I had only taken him out twice. If he has been clear for 48 hours then I would let him come but wouldn't let him hold baby. There is plenty of time for that.

RedHelenB · 20/01/2013 07:43

I think YAB a bit unreasonable as the 48 hours is up & it is important that his other kids feel included.

ChristmasJubilee · 20/01/2013 07:44

Could you suggest to DP that the children come to meet their new brother next weekend, if they are all well, just to be on the safe side and today he could take them to the cinema and for something to eat to make up.

Hopefully if he avoids kissing/hugging them on this occasion and maintains good hygiene he will be ok.

RedHelenB · 20/01/2013 07:57

BTW _ they're not people they're your dp's children & your child's siblings!

ll31 · 20/01/2013 08:00

think yabu if he hasn't been sick since thurs tbh

hazeyjane · 20/01/2013 08:07

Yanbu

Minimising risk of spreading means being really strict about the 48 hour rule, so is there has been any diarrhoea, then 48 hours after the last loose bm. If you can't be sure of this then i wouldn't risk it.

Obviously you don't want your newborn to catch it, but it would also be horrible to get it yourself if you are looking after a newborn and a toddler.

See if you can put it off a few days and then do something lovely to make to special for them.

MusicalEndorphins · 20/01/2013 08:14

Yanbu. They can wait a bit longer, too risky. It isn't their fault, and I am sure their dm would shelter them from noro is she knew ahead of time the person had it.

Gruffalump · 20/01/2013 08:15

Yanbu

extracrunchy · 20/01/2013 08:20

YANBU

KindleMum · 20/01/2013 08:22

YANBU. DD got noro at 18 months and ended up in paediatric hospital on a drip for 5 days. A week after she'd recovered we had a big family bash and cousins with a 5 week old refused to come as they were too scared we'd still be contagious. I knew we weren't contagious and cousin's mum felt embarrassed at her refusal and felt she was being too pfb but we weren't offended at all. I wouldn't have wanted to visit us with a newborn either. It was horrible having DD so ill and I wouldn't wish it on any newborn.

CoolaSchmoola · 20/01/2013 08:33

As it has been more than 48 hours YABU - but I totally understand why. It is a bit harsh for them to have to wait another week because one of them was sick overnight three days ago - they have been waiting months to meet their half sibling.

That said if DSS was only vomiting for one night it is more likely to have been something he ate or a common 12-24 hr bug than Noro which is nastier and tends to last a couple of days or longer. It also is a combination of sickness, diarrhea, feeling very unwell and physical aching all over like with proper flu. Even when the sickness stops people can feel unwell for a day or two. It's not just throwing up all night for one night.

Who said it was Noro? With all the hype a lot of stomach upset are being called Noro when they are a normal sickness bug, and only last a day.

DD was vomiting and had diarrhoea for six days when she had confirmed Noro. She was also very unwell for a total of 8 days.

DH was vomiting for four days and felt unwell for five.

I wish it has just been overnight Sad

CoolaSchmoola · 20/01/2013 08:33

*had just been overnight.

Katienana · 20/01/2013 08:46

Yanbu, baby comes first.

ProudAS · 20/01/2013 08:46

You say that the eldest is only getting over it now but not when the last d&v episode was. If he has spent the last couple of days feeling ill but not had d&v then that's a different situation to him having been vomiting yesterday.

CatsRule · 20/01/2013 09:48

I can understand where you are coming from, I have had a similar problem recebtly with an adult who should know better!

Yanbu!

Not only will your children and possibly you be ill if you catch it, you alsi have enough to do caring for a newborn and toddler nevermind a sick newborn and sick toddler!

nicelyneurotic · 20/01/2013 09:58

YANBU, please tell them not to come! It's not worth the risk and your DP is playing with fire if he thinks it's ok. Noro is very dangerous for tiny babies. Show him this thread.

YouOldSlag · 20/01/2013 10:49

YABU I think. But if child was last ill Thursday night, then today is Sunday, then that's over 48 hours so should be OK. If you are uncomfortable, don't let them hold the baby. (This needn't be an issue, just say, I would let you hold her but she's asleep/BFing/needs her Mum right now).

If they have been ill SINCE Thursday then YANBU. Just tell them NHS advice is to stay away a little longer, and then make a big fuss of them when you can properly introduce their sister.

pigletmania · 20/01/2013 10:59

I don't blame you. It can be up to a week before your nt contagious, a newborn baby is very vulnerable. I would out my foot down and say no nt yet unless yu wants very poorly baby

TidyDancer · 20/01/2013 11:01

It depends when symptoms were last shown. The 'only recovering now' comment makes me think they were just getting back up to strength and the last symptoms were on Thursday night. If so, you're well outside the 48 hours. That said, it is understandable when people are over cautious when it comes to new babies, so I get why you're asking. I would double check when the ill child was last ill, then make a final decision.

The title describing them as just people stung a bit with me as well, like they weren't as important, but I think/hope that was unintentional.

CheungFun · 20/01/2013 11:06

Totally agree with Hecates post.

Make sure you make a big fuss of the kids when they do visit though as they'll probably be a bit disappointed at not being able to come sooner and possibly a bit jealous of the baby. Maybe swaddle the baby up in a shawl and then let them sit down and hold the baby and take some photos to print out?

I remember feeling very pissed off when my half sister was born as I didn't get a look in or get to touch her! I was very shy so I might have looked like I didn't want anything to do with her, but I did!

McPie · 20/01/2013 11:19

YANBU as the little ones pick up things like this so easily even when people look and feel better.
My MIL visited my prem twins in scbu after having just got over a cold, not that anyone told me she had had one or she wouldnt have got to go. My ds ended up with a really bad cold where they had to regularly clear his nose to help him breath and they had to be kept in longer then dd's oxygen sats started dropping when feeding and would going purple!
It is horrible to see such young babies suffer so I would put it off for a few more days until they are fully clear as Im sure they dont want to see their sibling end up in hospital!

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