To think we should be fertile from 25-50 ish?

[Allthenamesiwantaretaken]

Just a bit frustrated that at the time I actually am starting to feel grown-up enough (ish) to try to conceive (aged 34) that apparently my fertility is about to fall off a cliff. We have been trying for a little while to no avail and I am wirrying about my eggs, I know everything else is ok. I'm not sure I even feel grown up enough yet but am feeling the clock tick-tick-ticking away!

[herecomesthsun]

Erm, it is perfectly possible to have kids in your 40s. I had one just after I turned 44 and another 6 weeks before my 48th birthday. I have PCOS as well (was on metformin and vitamins, no other medical intervention to get pregnant). I did have 3 mcs in the space of 9 months when I was 41-42 and that was tough.

Before contraception it would have been a lot commoner to see women in their 40s with babies (and past 50 is also possible). Women in my family had families of 14 or 21. (Glad I don't, even though I would have LOVED to have been able to start sooner, and probably would have had more). I was keen to have kids from about age 20 onwards, but didn't want to have them on my own/ fool someone into a surprise baby/ marry someone unless the relationship had a good chance of lasting etc.

Apparently, women over 40 who thought they had completed their families are more likely to terminate a surprise pregnancy than teenagers, so I would infer that there is a sizeable proportion of women who would not like to be very fertile in their 40s.

I do feel for anyone who thinks it is too late for them, I thought this in my early 40s and would be so so sad not to have my kids. I do have a friend who married in her 30s, could not have kids, and was overjoyed to adopt a baby, this can be a real possibility also of course.

Good luck!

[deleted203]

herecomesthesun Yes, it is possible to have kids at 44 and 48 - but it's rare. I had my last baby at 37 and would have liked another - but despite falling pregnant easily enough, had 4 MC between 38 and 41 and have not fallen pregnant since, despite never bothering with contraception. I had to accept my GPs words which were 'you're old and your eggs are now very poor quality. It's nature's way of getting rid of babies which are not viable'. Which was blunt, but true. He told me that there is a massive drop off in fertility after 37 and that very few women, statistically speaking, will find that they can conceive and carry a healthy baby in their 40s. He said he found it frustrating that so many women looked at people like Cherie Blair and other women who had had babies over 40 and though, 'oh well, I'll still be able to then'.

[LadyIsabellaWrotham]

Part of the problem is that we hear about the celebrities with late babies but we don't hear a) which of them have used egg donation which is almost impossible in the UK, and not most people's ideal choice and b) all the miscarriages they've had while getting to their take-home baby.

[StateofConfusion]

Sorry things are taking longer than you hoped op, but it isn't game over at 35, my Mum had my brother just before she was 41, 20 years after she had me!

Some people are ready before 25 though, I'm 24, dp 26 and we've finished our family, I do think I was a bit young when dc1 arrived however I sure grew up pretty quick when he was here!

[ArielThePiraticalMermaid]

I think that's one of the keys: that the women you hear about having babies in their 40s are rarely the women who have never had a baby before. Sometimes but rarely.

[parttimer79]

Sorry to hear things aren't happening for you yet!
I am a cautionary tale in the opposite direction.
I work as a researcher into social attitudes to fertility and had sent myself into a total panic that in my (early) mid thirties I was going to take forever to conceive and face the prospect of childfree living.
Stopped taking the pill as soon as we decided we wanted to try, got pregant the next month - cue and general gobsmackedness. I still wouldn't have tried any earlier than this as professionally and personally I wasn't in the right place.But God I don't want to be doing this again when I'm 50!

Realistically couples of any age can take up to a year or 2 years to conceive and nothing is necessarily wrong. And while fertility as a general trend does decline as we age this has little bearing on individual fertility.

[MadBusLady]

Parttimer makes an important point. This is a trend we are talking about. So "declining fertility" doesn't really mean much applied to an individual. If you're 35+ you might be in the group that gets pregnant in the first year, the group that takes longer or the group that never gets pregnant at all.

I totally get the ambiguous feeling about whether you're grown up enough. Some are misreading it as concern for the perfect job/house/finances but I think it's far more profound. And "maturity" IMO isn't about no longer staying out drinking all night either. For me it's more "Fuck, could I do this? Do I even totally want to? Would it be ok to try knowing I might be rubbish at it? What if I hate xyz elements of it?" and all that. If you expressed those doubts about a partner or a job, people would tell you to be cautious, take your time and weigh things up. Sadly, there's a limit on that here.

So YANBU!

[amandine07]

Really interesting posts, lots of food for thought.
I'm almost 35 and not TTC yet, am already going into a mild panic that my fertility will be falling off a cliff in the near future.

OP I really sympathise...it's a a tough one for women, men can be fertile for such a longer time span but for ladies you have to get on with it/start planning & thinking about TTC sooner rather than later.

Celebs aged 40+ don't help when they are having babies/multiple births, I do wonder how many egg donors are involved. My DP has referred to older mothers having babies e.g. Carla Bruni etc but I have berated him emphasising that it's generally not that easy at that age.

He doesn't get why I'm worrying so much, for me 35 is round the corner- I don't think I feel 100% ready but as ready as I'll ever be- wish I could know how long it will take to fall PG!

I wish you luck OP, quite a few good debates & social commentary going on in this thread...

[digerd]

My GM had my dad at 43 and was her 7th child. My MIL had 15, but after 42 she never got pregnant again. At 39, I was too old to have any more.
The youngest of the Railway Children - forgotten her name- had her first at 46. A complete surprise as had thought she was infertile, not having conceived before, and thought her lack of periods and weight gain was the menopause.
It's just how it is, that men can be fertile until they die - nature knows they are not the ones that get pregnant.

[amandine07]

Ah that is true about Carla Bruni- I debated with my DP that I reckoned they'd been TTC since their marriage which was almost a good 4 years before their daughter was born i.e. it didn't just take a couple of months.
Anyhow, that's off on a tangent...