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No baby change facilities at a family friendly pub!

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gallifrey · 02/01/2013 16:31

A John Barras pub in Kent, we went there the other day and they didn't have any baby change facilities at all and we had to change our DD in the car in the car park in the freezing cold :(
I have emailed them today, surely it's not too much trouble to have one of those pull down baby change things!

Also I didn't see a disabled/accessible toilet either, which would normally double up as a baby change.

AIBU to expect such a thing?!

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Nixea · 02/01/2013 17:01

Thing is, we've been to a few John Barras pubs and although they have kids menus I've never actually seen or heard one describe themselves as family friendly. Did it specifically say that?

lockets · 02/01/2013 17:02

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Icelollycraving · 02/01/2013 17:03

Family friendly suggests to me more that it has a kids menu,crayons & high chairs than a baby changing facility. It isn't a requirement,more of a bonus. No doubt you will get some people telling you disabled loos are not for able bodied parents not me,I've done it.
Yanbu to want baby changing facilities but Yabu to expect it in a pub.

TwelveLeggedWalk · 02/01/2013 17:03

YoSaff, you're definitely not.

I have had to adopt the MN-patented-one-legged-pin-down nappy change technique for my wriggler. No way on earth I could do it on my lap without at least one of us getting concussed!

41notTrendy · 02/01/2013 17:04

I could never have done ds on my lap. Even using the pram was a nightmare. Ds wailed on those pull down things antway. Fold up changing mat was perfect solution, anywhere would do.

CommunistLegoBloc · 02/01/2013 17:05

If the OP had changed a shitty nappy on her lap in a pub, there would be an AIBU complaining, quite rightly, that someone had changed a disgusting nappy near them whilst they were eating.

ILoveSaladReallyIDo · 02/01/2013 17:06

yes communist, if she did it near people eating, but the great things about laps is you can move them to quiet corners, or to the car or wherever!

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BalloonSlayer · 02/01/2013 17:12

I have got 3 DCs, all late potty trainers so I have got nearly 10 years of nappy changing experience (gawd!) and there's no way I would be skilled enough to change a nappy on my lap.

The only person I have ever seen do that is a friend who is a nanny. I was well impressed.

CommunistLegoBloc · 02/01/2013 17:13

But the OP did go to the car, salad! So criticising her for not using her lap is a bit redundant.

I don't see why pubs that have children's menus, and therefore expect families, wouldn't have a cheap pull-down changing table. You can put your own mat on them or give them a wipe down if you're not convinced by hygiene.

gallifrey · 02/01/2013 17:15

I'm not saying I can't change her anywhere else, I was just surprised that there wasn't anything in the pub.

I have to use a wheelchair occasionally too, although I wasn't at the time and I definitely didn't see a disabled toilet either.

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ILoveSaladReallyIDo · 02/01/2013 17:16

a wipe down/mat does nothing for caked straps/buckles - and they say not to use them without

Sirzy · 02/01/2013 17:16

Some places simply don't have the room for a changing table, doesn't mean they aren't family friendly though. Nappies are normally only for 3 years of a childs life, being a child lasts way beyond that point!

Viviennemary · 02/01/2013 17:17

I would say family friendly meant children welcome. But wouldn't necessarily expect changing facilities for babies because it was family friendly.

ILoveSaladReallyIDo · 02/01/2013 17:17

and I was criticising you communist, for thinking that lap changing = changing at a table near people's food, and not finding somewhere appropriate first Wink

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 02/01/2013 17:17

I've never done a lap change either, no. I don't see how changing her on a mat on the floor of the loo is a problem though. Stinky nappies are not great but the one place the smell of poo is acceptable is surely in a toilet?

Gumby · 02/01/2013 17:18

I'd have changed her in the loo, on your changing mat, not in the car

if you didn't ask I bet there was a disabled loo but you didn't see it

we could of course google the pub to check it out

Sirzy · 02/01/2013 17:19

Also I thought that places only had to provide disabled facilities as much as it is possible to do so in older buildings? New places have to but its accepted that for older places (especially small ones) its not always going to be possible to include a disabled toilet. I know at least one pub I go to doesn't have disabled toilets (or child change) because it simply wouldn't be possible to do so.

ClippedPhoenix · 02/01/2013 18:06

I don't know any pubs near me that have this facility. Never thought they would either really.

KobayashiMaru · 02/01/2013 22:10

Lap in the loo, not in the bloody bar! Hmm

squeakytoy · 02/01/2013 22:15

unless you were in an open top car, then the fact that it was freezing outside shouldnt have made much difference to the inside of the car if you had driven it there not long before..

I also know very few pubs that do not have a disabled toilet, in fact I am struggling to think of a single one that doesnt.

AnnaRack · 02/01/2013 22:40

We have done it on the car bonnet
Change nappy that is

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