To sneak an extra child into centre parks ??

[catfourfeet]

Hi
Posting on behalf of a friend (she can't easily get to Internet ATM )

She's booked a centre parks holiday in a lodge that sleeps 4.

Posting on behalf of a friend , shes in the back of beyond , no internet.

She's booked a holiday at centre parks.

Her exdh agreed to take their sn dd leaving her to take their 3ds.

All good , mum gets a break, dd gets to spend time with her dad ( at the dd request)

Based on the fact that she would have 3 dc with her she booked accommodation for 4 in total.

Now exdh has refused to take dd ( don't know all the details ) and has buffered off with new gf.

She is due to leave tomorrow for two nights.

Dd won't / can't stay with anyone but mum or dad due to sn issues.

It's too late to change the booking , no bigger lodges free anyway. Even if she could afford it.

Do you think she can get away with sneaking 4 kids plus her into accommodation for 4 ???

What about going into the pool ??

Thanks in advance

Keep one if her ds !! With me

You can shove the twin beds together & sleep 3 children lying crossways. Double for your friend and one of the dd's. Nobody ever checks the occupancy of the lodges and nobody monitors the adult to child ratio at the pool. How to get an additional child in through check-in, I don't know.
Hide one & make the others swear silence?
How old are the dc?

Go online to cp website and under activities book one child in as a day guest. Then you can all arrive together with no issues.
Explain one will be collected by someone else later that day.
Sorted.

Anyone know a pub / cafe near longleat centre parks ??

I think that would be a fab idea cat...your friend and her DC deserve this holiday.

Catfour, yip. That would work. You can check in early (before you get access to the lodges), and get access to the pool. The older two will be able to use it without supervision of an adult, and your friend cld drive back to meet you & get the other child, on return up the parc, she will have her car sticker and and just drive back to the parking area.

Cat book one of the kids and you in as day guests and arrive in two vehicles, may be easier, plus you get a nice day out.
There is a premier inn not far away that we stopped in en-route to Longleat.

Yeah cat, I think that would work fine as they don't check the cars back in the second time.
But if she is concerned then I would go down the day pass route.

There is a pub about 2-3 miles from longleat, i think its called the red lion.

Sounds like a great way to add stress to a holiday.

Or as pp has said, make a day out of it for yourself (maybe your kids aswell), assuming financial that's viable.

On the official q&a the answer isn't great;

Published 22/11/2011 03.21 PM | Updated 13/03/2012 08.03 PM
In order to avoid over occupying accommodation we have had to define the age range that we consider to be an infant and sleep comfortably in our cots. We recognise that not all children are the same but we have to set a clear consistent policy for all to understand. Children of two years and over are not considered infants by Center Parcs and therefore should be included in the head count for the accommodation. The maximum number of guests in each accommodation unit (as stated on our website) must not be exceeded. If it is, we may move those additional persons to another accommodation unit and will charge the appropriate full charge for the additional accommodation. Children under the age of two can be included in your party without the need for a standard sized bed, in these cases we provide a cot.

Here is the link centerparcs.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/97/kw/Maximum

So I would focus on what others have suggested re; getting in once in it will be fine -

"sound like a great way to add stress to a holiday "

She didn't plan this , her fuckwit of an exdh let her down.

I used to work with someone who lives near Sherwood Centreparcs. He frequently used to bike through the main gates on a Saturday with kids - wave to the people in the checking in lodge and then lock the bikes up and go for a swim. He saws they'd just assume he was a guest who'd been to the Sherwood Pines next door for a bike ride.

Thanks for the info regards near by pub

Found this; which looks best solution;

Full Day Visitors Pass
Published 22/12/2011 12.15 PM | Updated 22/05/2012 09.29 AM
Description
If you would like to bring friends and family along to Center Parcs for the day you can purchase a day pass for them to be able to try out a particular activity or join you for a family meal. Day passes are permitted from 10am to midnight. We do not permit day visitors to bring any animals onto the village. We strongly advise you to pre-book your day visitors as we have limited spaces available. Please Note, If booking the 'group of four' option there must be at least one adult over the age of 18 years old in the party. Activity available at all villages.

Link here; child/related/1

Don't just sneak her in. You'll be on edge all holiday.

Pay for day passes and they will turn a blind eye to her sleeping there too. Unfortunately I know this from experience, but it will work. They don't want to ruin the holiday, so as long as you have paid for her one way or another, they will be helpful.

Thanks for all the advice , I'll go with her tomorrow and see how we get on.
I can't afford a day pass for me and my kids :(
But we can have a day out round the longleat area.

For understandably kind reasons, this thread consists of people telling you how to help your friend commit a criminal act (obtaining services by deception). Although it seems harmless in the real world and a "victimless crime", the same could be said of shoplifting or skipping train fares and I am sure nobody would recommend either of those activities.

It would be best if your friend could persuade the father to take the DD after all if at all possible as per the original plan. .... perhaps I don't get out enough but I couldn't do this (defraud CP) and would never advise a friend to do it, even though I see the temptation.

If you are in the Longleat area then passes for Longleat itself are very good value btw and at least as enjoyable as CP. Perhaps you can have your friend's DD for the duration and do fun other stuff?

Good luck for tomorrow, what a shit her ex has been.

houseelfdobby - are you for real? Any place that makes you pay £6 for 30 minutes table tennis deserves to be screwed over. And anyway this is not a planned deception - it has only occurred through desperate circumstances. Would you really rather they stayed at home miserable?

I have to agree with houseelfdobby. Yes the circumstances are unfortunate (though 'desperate' is going a bit far), but that doesn't make it right to only pay for four guests while sneaking in a fifth. Saying it's OK because she 'deserves' the holiday seems morally dubious to me.

Surely there's a safety issue as well with lying about the number of children, e.g. if there was a fire or something, no one would know to look for a fourth child.

Oh good grief. It's hardly grand larceny. CP has rules to prevent big groups crashing in their chalets, to meet their insurers agreement and to extract maximum money from customers. OP's friend wants to bend these rules a bit for understandable reasons.

As for fire risk epiphany - do you never have house guests?

Dobby - the DD has SN and can't/won't be left with anyone other than her DM or "D"F. So, although you've suggested that the OP make arrangements to have her friend's DD for the days, what would you suggest they do for the nights?

Tricky situation... For all we know, a CP employee has spotted this thread and they will now be on the lookout in 2 days time anyway. OP, did you explain on the phone re. the SN, your friend beind dropped in it, etc (basically really lay the sob story down really thickly?) Surely it would be good customer relations to be flexible in these circumstances?

Can't she just change the booking to 5 & upgrade the accomodation?