to think I can never vote Conservative again until...

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it is revealed and fully investigated who all the Conservative people are who were involved in the child abuse ring in Barnes?

It's now being reported in the news that there is evidence that links Elms Guest House in Barnes, Rocks Lane, to a network of abusers who were abusing children from a local RIchmond run care home called Grafton Close between 1979 - 1982 at the guest house. The woman (carol Kasir) who ran the guest house passed on evidence to two people at NAYPIC (National Association of Young People in Care - closed down due to lack of funding - or perhaps because they asked too many questions? Can't we campaign to get their funding back?) before she died in 1990 and was also able to show them photos of -

• a former tory cabinet minister in a sauna with abused boys
• a former top policeman
• Sir Anthony Blunt (long rumoured to strangle boys to death while raping them) who is said to have used the name Anthony Goldstein when signing in to the guest house

Apart from photos they now also have evidence in the form of receipts, paying-in slips as well as diary notes etc. which links to:

• 2 former Conservative cabinet ministers
• a further 7 MPs: four other Tories, 2 Labour and 1 Liberal
• a leading National Front figure (now dead)
• a Sinn Fein member
• 2 Buckingham Palace officials
• several figures with links to the Monday Club, a well known hard-right Conservative group
• 2 pop stars

AIBU to think that despite the mix of pop stars, Sinn Fein and NF, there is a mere sprinkling of representation from the other political parties and that the conservatives appear to be over-represented in the paedophile category here?

Definitely casts some light on Cameron's strange comment on This Morning that accusations of paedophilia were tantamount to homophobia - I wondered at the time what on earth he was going on about. At the time I thought, but the gender of the child is irrelevant to whether someone is a paedophile or not, it's the age surely, so gay or straight, anyone can be a paedophile because in reality, it is a sexual orientation that cannot be re-programmed in much the same way as you can't make a gay person straight or a straight person gay (hence why rehabilitation, is not really an option).

I really hope there are other previous Conservative voters out there who feel the same and want to push for the fullest investigation possible (well at least until MI5 pops up and shuts it down) - no matter what their policies are and whether I agree with them, I can't vote for them until there is a full inquiry into their own paedophiles within their ranks and who and how they were concealed from prosecution, even now. Why have we been so focused on the BBC and 70s celebrities when people who are currently in power or who have power are abusing children and it is known by their 'leader'?

Clean up now Cameron, please, the general election might seem far away but a vote of no confidence might be closer than you think.

boney you are quite right and apologies for no links. This supports the 80% but challenges your gender split with women much lower than 49%

I would have never voted for the Tories in the first place but that is by the by.

If members of the Tory/Labour/Lib Dems party turn out to be sex offenders it doesn't alter my opinion of the party one iota or change my voting intentions. I suddenly haven't stopped watching BBC programmes because Jimmy Saville was a dirty fiddler or stopped listening to music on CBS/Epic record labels as they had Gary Glitter under contract in the 1970s.

There are a million and one reasons not to vote Tory, but this isn't one of them.

So who do we vote for if we find all three main political parties have been hiding paedophiles within their ranks? I don't doubt Labour have their own worries what with Tom Driberg's association with Lord Boothby and then there's the embarrassment of Harriet Harman lobbying parliament on behalf of the Paedophile Information Exchange (as was affiliated under the NCCL, forerunner to Liberty) to required prosecutions of indecent images of children to prove the children were harmed as a result of making the image and to require that prosecutions under (as affiliated under the NCCL as was, during the 70s) the Liberals are contending with the legacy of Cyril Smith and Jeremy Thorpe, so it may just be that the paedophiles within Conservative ranks are less discreet. At the moment I feel as though the entire parliamentary system is morally bankrupt and the only person I'd vote for is Tom Watson - and I'd never thought I'd say that!

Sorry links for above:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9614516/Jimmy-Savile-Labour-faces-embarrassment-over-former-child-sex-claims.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange.html

Can't beat a bit of delusional paranoia to lighten up the holiday season.

GrumpySod - do you think David Hencke won his political journalist of the year award for being delusional? The system of checks and balances has all but diappeared in the UK now we know more about the real relationship between the press, police and politicians. We're now relying on courage and tenacity of a few investigative journalists, all of whom I would imagine you think are delusional too: Nick Davies, Eileen Fairweather, Leah Grath-Goodman to name a few. Nick Davies was called delusional many times when pursuing the phone hacking scandal. Reminds me of that Ghandi quote ?First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.? I hope those journalists do win this time around, I really do.