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To think I would rather my daughter be promiscuous than be like this.

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mrsspankythechristmaspoo · 27/12/2012 10:12

If you have the time to watch the whole doc it's very interesting, but at the same time Shock I was watching with my oh and I said if i had daughters i'd rather them do what 'normal teenagers' do and have boyfriends/ experiment. My oh was a bit Hmm and Shock that I would rather have a knocked up teen than a 'pure' one

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Pantomimedam · 28/12/2012 12:40

I find this association of 'purity' with 'virginity' really quite disturbing. I know it was the case in the olden days, but really, in the 21st Century? It implies a girl is somehow soiled or rendered unclean by having sex. Horrid.

nailak · 28/12/2012 15:13

piglet because I talk to people who have been virgins before marriage, sometimes they ask me questions.

nailak · 28/12/2012 15:17

I dont get it, say it is the girls choice and something she has decided for herself, it seems like the majority of posters would be unhappy with this and encourage her to have sex before marriage.

However if she decided to be promiscuous or sexually adventurous you wouldnt have a problem with this and say as long as she was safe it was her decision and you would respect this decision. You wouldnt think then that she was being influenced by anything or unable to make the choice or whatever?

yaimee · 28/12/2012 18:19

nailak I can only go off what I saw in the clip posted but it certainly doesn't seem to be the decision of the young women, it seems to be the decision of their parents, particularly in the cases of the very young girls (5 y/o at the ball, wtf), who would have very little understanding of the concept.
Also as pantomimedam has said, it's a very outdated and misogynistic way of looking at female sexuality, to describe women who have not had sex as 'pure' then makes women who have had sex 'unpure', the obvious conclusion to draw from that is that sex is somehow dirty and wrong, which is not the way to promote a healthy attitude towards sex among young people.
I don't think many people are trying to say that promiscuity is better than abstinence, or that if a young person did choose abstinence for herself that she should be discouraged from making this choice.
I think for the most part, an open and supportive parent, who is willing to discuss sex and relationships and who doesn't pressurise their child into decisions regarding their sexuality, will probably end up with a child who is educated and who has enough information and common sense to make the decision that is right for them.

nooka · 28/12/2012 18:51

Apart from being creepy and misogynistic the abstinence movement doesn't actually work. the only difference appears to be that 'pledgers' are less likely to use appropriate protection. Bristol Palin being a fairly visible example.

pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e110.full

drizzlecake · 28/12/2012 19:06

I think that your daughter 'getting knocked up' is not ok as it means that there is a child conceived that might not be wanted.

Am feeling unsympathetic after interview on you and yours with girl living wiht partner in awful bedsit accomm (don't think he was parent of poor baby), interview highlighting her miserable accomm, ---- well maybe she should have waited until she has a job/home/supportive partner before 'getting knocked up'.

Have family member in social services and the number of not cared for DCs is bloody unbelievable.

drizzlecake · 28/12/2012 19:15

as for youtube link -
am more concerned wiht the surgically enhanced/ botoxed/ teethwhitened presenter, she looks so artificial.

Any extremist beliefs are unsettling, but usually affect a minority of individuals which will be the case here I would think.

A Christian family member has recently been wed, naturally she was a virgin. No big deal.

nailak · 28/12/2012 20:17

i dont think saying sex out of marriage is wrong or impure makes the whole of sex wrong!

Different people have different concepts of when it is appropriate to have sex, some will only have sex within a relationship, some only within a marriage, some will have one night stands or friends with benefits others wont, it is up to the individual what they feel is right for them.

I agree and I said it is meaningless a 7 year old going to these balls! I like the idea of making the father daughter relationship important and strong, however I agree there is something creepy with a father talking about his 7 year olds sex life.

yaimee · 28/12/2012 20:40

It's the use of the word purity though. It's incredibly misogynistic. Fair enough if someone chooses to abstain before marriage then that is their personal choice but to equate not doing so with 'impurity' is entirely wrong! As if a woman is then somehow spoiled.

drizzlecake · 28/12/2012 21:28

Yes, v true yaimee

somewherewest · 28/12/2012 21:34

It's the use of the word purity though. It's incredibly misogynistic.

This seems to be another way in which US no-premarital-sex Christians are unusual. In the UK words like 'purity' are used (although not as much), but the onus is on both sexes to stay 'pure'.

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