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cannotbelievehowexpensive · 26/12/2012 10:25

Hi, I know this is not AIBU but just for traffic...
We've been promising our dcs for a few years now that we'll go to Disney world this year.
Anyway I'm only now just looking properly into costs - I'd had a quick look a few times before but assumed I'd be able to get deals nearer the time.
I am actually almost in tears, I don't know how we are going to be able to afford it! I can't believe the costs - even on the websites that advertise themselves as cheap Florida holidays the lowest price I've been able to find is just under £5000. For a weeks holiday and not including spending money! I must have been very naive, I envisaged the whole thing including spending coming to 4 grand at the very most. How do people afford to go there? Am I missing something?
Please don't flame me for promising something and not checking the costs.... I thought I had a rough idea, but was totally wrong.... we've been promising this for so long I don't know how we can go back on it now. Any advice would be very very appreciated.

OP posts:
Startail · 26/12/2012 11:39

Yep I don't expect any change from 5 grand.

As to affording it, we still have the kitchen that was old when we bought this house.

That was 14 years ago.

We've only been once before, but want to do universal now DD2 is tall enough for everything and before DS1 is 16 and coasts adult airfare.

As for the new kitchen, carpets, paint, sofa etc etc etc- they will be holidays, cars and geek until the actually fall apart. Grin

SoggySummer · 26/12/2012 11:44

You need to book it seperately and dont even entertain packages.

Look at Kayak for flights. It will allow you to set up daily emails telling you your flight date options prices - and provide a little chart telling you if prices have dropped or risen since you started looking. Book when you see a good price.

Not sticking to 7 or 14 days will help. Travel out on a Thursday come back on a Tuesday for example (12 nights). You need to do alot of playing with dates and see what offers you the best deals.

If going for longer than a week then consider indirect flights. £700 odd for direct can become £350/450 each indirect. We have done this on longer trips and with small kids. Its not as horrendous as first thought but not as easy as direct but the saving financially can be huge 50% and even more. We made it part of our holiday and accepted the fact we would be at X airport for X hours and included in our costings a nice family sit down meal in an airport restaurant (not McDs) so we knew it would pass and hour or 2. If you consider this option I would not always go for the shortest stopover - because where ever you land first in the USA will be where you need to clear immigration - which can take hours (on a bad day). Much as a 1 or 2 hour stopover may seem ideal, by the time you as a family have all gone to the loo,cleared immigration and gone through security for your connecting flight - 2 hours can fly by - so be realistic if doing connections about how long you may need. It becomes stresdsful if its too short, more so imo than a long stopover where you can fill the time with meals and shops and its a time for little ones to stretch their legs a bit after the long flight over from the UK.

Shop around in the same way for accommodation.

Dont book disney accommodation. Lovely that it is - you will end up eating on site which is not cheap. Dont bother with a villa - you will need car hire and parking fees at the parks everyday (great that car hire is, its a cost that can be cut if looking to cut costs). Also with Villas you will be paying for pool heating in Oct ontop of the villa cost. The best option imo is a condo off site but close by to the parks. Condos offer everything a villa does (full kitchens,laundry facilities and communal free pool) 2 bathrooms even - which if a larger family like yours is trying to get out the door and into the parks early in the day will be a requirement.

International Drive is probably one of the cheapest areas to stay and has the Itrolley to the parks which is cheap to use (if not hiring a car) but I prefer Lake Beuna Vista. Some Condos etc provide free shuttles to the parks etc. Its not as flexible as having your own transport but its FREE and once in any Disney area you can use Disney Transport between parks. Alot of places also have free transport to Universal and Seaworld etc but you have to fit in with the bus timetables. Staying off site means you as a family may be able to eat out cheaply and not be restricted to the parks.

We have stayed here Blue Heron before and it was fab. Its in Lake Buena Vista so if you miss the free transport in the morning to any of the parks its cheap enough to get a taxi (if no car hire) - not every day but ok a few times. You can walk to DownTown Disney in 20 minutes, if you wanted and from there get the free Disney transport into any Disney Park. Its close to several eating places that are cheap like Cici Pizza and Golden Corral and a few shops etc. TBH - we dont eat in that much but brekkie we have in condo most days - something simple and quick like toast/cereal etc - over a 2 weeks holiday we may have brekkie out a few times but this alone must save us ££££ on eating out as a family every morning. Some mornings we even popped down to dunkin donuts for a truely un-healthy brekkie but with enough sugar to sustain stomping around the parks for a few hours until lunch.

We found the thing that works best for us is to hire a car for the first few days. This we have found works out the cheapest way to get from airport to condo and also a few trips to Walmart and the malls to stock up on food, drinks, packed lunches and a few cheap souveniers for the kids at the start of the holiday). The rest of the time we use the Condo free transport.

For accommodation spend hours trawling websites like Expedia,Traveocity, Travelsupermarket etc etc etc. You need to research and research and reasearch like mad - get to know which area would suit you best to stay in. Then heavily reseach certain accommodation that comes up - and then compare prices. A motel room would be the cheapest room option, but you will have little cooking facilities to even prep snack for brekkie etc and will be paying to eat and drink every meal out and about which may tot up the overall cost.

Start researching now - get a folder and a pad, make notes as you go. You can do it cheaper than initially thought but it involves time and effort. We went back in 2008 for 32 days and the whole holiday for 4 of us including spends came in at just under £5k including ultimate passes to all parks disney and universal, water parks, kennedy etc etc. That was our best deal ever - prices have gone up ALOT since then but bargains can be found if you put in the time.

Dont give up - you may find it is affordable but its not going to jump out easily at you - you need to make this a project if you want to do it cheaper. Good luck.

whois · 26/12/2012 11:49

OP the costs of flying across the Atlantic are not cheap, despite the large chav contingent always on the Orlando flights which may lead you to believe otherwise!

Try Euro Disney maybe? You can drive, take more stuff and should be a lot chaper. Park is still really good.

Dromedary · 26/12/2012 11:50

flow4 - this sounds a fantastic deal!
Just explain to your kids that America has turned out to be too expensive, and you're going to Paris instead. Paris will be a fantastic trip, and you won't bankrupt yourselves. If the children don't yet understand about money issues maybe time they found out? Circumstances change - these days most of us are getting poorer, and aspirations have to change accordingly. That kind of trip to Paris is something that we and lots of the people we know couldn't afford. And the older ones can practise their French a bit!

itsallinthememories · 26/12/2012 12:03

to be honest, how did you think that you would be able to do a trip to florida with 4 children for less than £1k each with flights, accomodation and car hire. The cheapest way to do it would be non direct flights off season and to book a villa the driven drive to disney.

Chelvis · 26/12/2012 12:04

We've been a few times, usually pay about 5-700 per adult for flights in late August and stay at the golden links motel - it's not fancy, but is clean, comfortable and close to parks and restaurants. Disney hotels are fab but very expensive! Late August is a good time as the US schools are back, so the parks aren't crazy and prices are a little lower ... It isn't a cheap holiday, but worth saving for, I don't think eurodisney compares

DebK2012 · 26/12/2012 12:05

You have four kids it is obviously going to be expensive!!!!!

lljkk · 26/12/2012 12:08

sympathies, my uncle who lives in Florida can't even afford to fly his family of 6 to California to see family for Christmas. It's not babies who are expensive, it's big kids over 12.

DebK2012 · 26/12/2012 12:08

You have four kids it is obviously going to be expensive!!!!!

LookingForwardToMarch · 26/12/2012 12:13

I understand completely. I was taken to Disney Florida 4 times when I was younger!

So really wanted to do it for my babies when they arrive, first one is on its way Smile

But HOLY CRAP had no idea how much it cost. Have found new respect for my parents but am also starting to wonder if they deal drugs lol

bamboostalks · 26/12/2012 12:31

Wow Soggy Summer! What a fantastic informative post. Am going to c and p that for my own info. Thanks so much. Can't believe the trouble strangers go to in order to help others. That must have taken you half an hour.

Enfyshedd · 26/12/2012 12:50

Last year, DP's DM wanted a family holiday with the grandchildren, so booked Disneyland Paris - for 5 adults & 4 children it was about £3K/£3.5K for 3 nights hotel & 4 days park entry including:
Eurostar from St Pancras (the train terminal is about 50 yards fron the park entrance & we were first class one way as otherwise we couldn't have 9 seats together) & train travel to & from South Wales for 4 & Yorkshire for 5,
3 rooms in a London Hotel the night before & night after Disney,
3 rooms in the Newport Bay Hotel at Disney with B&B included,
1 evening meal in Cafe Disney where you meet the characters (food was lush),
1 evening meal & show with the Wild West Show (food was rubbish).

Is Florida really that much better?

bradywasmyfavouritewiseman · 26/12/2012 12:51

What month were you planning to go and what was your budget including spending money?

bradywasmyfavouritewiseman · 26/12/2012 12:53

sorry just seen the date. Will be back soon, when we have finished at mums and add some info.

daisydoodoo · 26/12/2012 13:14

I found the cheapest and best way was to stay on international drive. we did this august 2011 and was so much better that we did it again september of this year.

that way flight's and park tickets were just short of £5000 that was 14 day passes for the disney parks, seaworld and universal.

transfers were included from the hotel to the parks except Disney but we booked taxis to take us and pick up. we also got passes for the itrolley which goes the length of International drive. you can use the itrolley for seaworld aquatica snd universal also wet n wild.

it was goid for getting to the outlet malls as well. fir florida mall we used a taxi too.

we definitely saw a lot more of orlando this way and international drive has so many interesting places to visit that we'd missed previously by staying in Disney or universal hotels.

Earlybird · 26/12/2012 13:31

I'd use this as a 'life lesson' in family economics.

Explain to your dc that Florida is turning out to be much more expensive than you thought. Sit them down and show them a breakdown of costs (obviously smallest won't understand).

Tell them you can either go to Disney in France this coming October (and have a lovely time), or if they really are set on Florida it will mean delaying a year (Oct 2014) and saving like mad (cutting out extras in your weekly/monthly budget). Decide what to do as a family, and involve them in the decision.

If they choose to wait for Florida, talk about and agree what savings they (and you) are willing to make each month to put toward the holiday kitty. Get them to help you do the research - or show them what their options are for booking (flights - direct vs connecting, hotels vs villas, etc). Make it a big family project to count up how much you've saved every month and how much closer it gets you toward your goal.

Life is all about balancing what you need with what you want (and can afford). Budgeting is a huge part of that.

Saccrofolium · 26/12/2012 13:38

I was talking to DH about Disney this morning - have you seen their advert? It's very subtle but it's all about portraying the family as very middle class - the kids are in private school uniforms, the garden has been landscaped. Thats cos Disney as a package is soooo expensive.

financialwizard · 26/12/2012 14:36

For the pp's asking if Disney Florida is that different from Disney Paris IMO it really is. There are many many more parks, and much more to do for a wider age range. Whilst it is ridiculously expensive I would personally hold off and save to go to Florida.

As an aside my husband wants to go to Florida. We have to go in August 2015. We are currently saving like mad to ensure we have a 'once in a lifetime' because we know we will never be able to afford it again. We have not had a holiday for 5 years, and won't get one until Florida so I don't feel too bad about the 7k it will cost us (roughly). Hideously expensive, but when you have 2 teenage boys nearing gcse's and an infant school daughter that is the price you have to pay.

FestiveElement · 26/12/2012 15:26

Don't bother with Euro Disney. It doesn't sound like you will, but it's really not worth it in comparison to Florida.

I like Earlybirds idea of getting the dc involved in choosing and saving for the holiday.

covermyfacefromthesun · 26/12/2012 15:30

I know you said not to flame you BUT - you shouldn't promise anything to your children until you at least check prices.

You've been given good suggestions on here, I hope you follow them.

AngelsWithSilverWings · 26/12/2012 15:42

We are going this Easter. We have been saving up since 2009 and had hoped that 5k would cover flights, accommodation, car hire , park tickets and spending money. Not a chance!

We did save money by booking indirect flights and booking the villa independently but will need to find our spending money in addition to the 5k we have saved up.

I wish we had delayed the holiday an extra year to give us time to save up the spending money but we didn't realise how expensive the flights were going to be until we had booked the villa. ( the flight prices were not released until a few months after)

Pourquoimoi · 26/12/2012 15:44

Can you really only go for a week? There is masses to do and we had hardly any spare time in a 3 week holiday last year.

The extra cost for staying a third week for us was ridiculously cheap, one week villa rent and token amounts to extend he Disney and universal passes.

It really would be a mistake in my opinion to put all that effort and saving into a trip and only do half of it.

New York will be a lot more expensive. We looked I to doing Orlando for 2 weeks and NYC for a week but the cost was a lot higher in NYC (think upwards of £200 per night in NY hotel compared to £500 per week for a luxury villa in Orlando)

Good luck, I liked the idea above about setting it out to the kids and making it a family saving project for a year later.

dixiechick1975 · 26/12/2012 15:47

Agree with dibb and disboards for great advice. I post on both as dixonsontour.

A week is not enough for Disneyworld - remember you will take a few days to recover from the 9 hour flight/time difference.

Dearest bit is the flight - October is a v popular time for british families to go. Direct flights are £££. Indirect flights can be had for £500 ish each.

Accomodation is reasonably priced. Hotels or villas.

Food/eating out is also reasonably priced outside the theme parks.

Tickets are also a big expense. Think carefully about what parks you can realistically do in the time. Disney just markets ultimate tickets to the uk but it can be cheaper to get the US Magic Your Way tickets.

We always book DIY - so flights, accomodation, car hire separately.

dixiechick1975 · 26/12/2012 15:54

If you are willing/able to take kids out of school (not sure of their ages ) there have been some fantastic late deals with charter airlines - monarch (cosmos) and thomson.

I know thomson flights were £198 each 9th December - booked a couple of weeks out.

We went 1st week of May for under £1000 for the 3 of us for 7 nights - 3 direct monarch flights from manchester and a 2 bed nice condo at bahama bay - booked a week before with cosmos.

May/sept/early December are usually good times for a late deal.

pointysettia · 26/12/2012 16:20

We're going this summer but it's holiday-of-a-lifetime territory and we have £11k set aside for it. If we don't spend it all fine, if we do, also fine. Then it's back to El Cheapo cottages in Devon and the DDs know this. They'll be 10 and 12 and are already tall enough for all the big rides (even DD2 - eek!)

I will still gulp a bit when booking though...

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