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to be a little chuffed that tommee tippee can't claim to be anti-colic anymore

57 replies

ICBINEG · 19/12/2012 13:41

I always had a problem with the idea of plastic air valves being "closer to nature"...my suspicions were aroused when two separate inspections of my boobs revealed no such device.

Anyway, hopefully they will now force all their competitors to drop this ridiculous claim also!

ruling

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catgirl1976geesealaying · 19/12/2012 13:42

It said "closer"...not "the same as" though

I don't think anyone accidentally bought them expecting actual nipples......

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 19/12/2012 13:45

I think that bottle bed babies fees from
Whatever type of bottle suits them. Whether or not they r closer to nature ( cos we all stupidly believe plastic feels just like mummy's boob) is irrelevant. I never paid any attention to claims I went with what suited MY baby. :)

ICBINEG · 19/12/2012 13:46

well maybe not...

still they might have bought them expecting it to help with colic which it won't. So on that front a good result I feel.

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 19/12/2012 13:46

Bottle fed and feeds Blush dam auto correct

WizardofOs · 19/12/2012 13:47

No one knows what colic is or what causes it so they were always skating on thin ice.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 19/12/2012 13:48

Colic is a generic name for ur controllable crying. No one really knows what it is so theoretically they may help or they may not. It's not a true claim but also not a false claim. Tough one.

Softlysoftly · 19/12/2012 13:51

Well I found the Dr Browns one did help with wind.

Colic is a "it's a virus" form of term, for babies that scream and no reason can be found. I suppose you could say that things are missold under the guise of fixing it but to my mind I don't think a few placebos to give stents hope and keep them sanre until they are past the worse harms anyone.

PinkSnow · 19/12/2012 13:51

Different bottles suit different formula fed babies. My son was windy on TT but was ok on AVENT. My daughter was the opposite and very windy on AVENT but the TT bottles suited her and she was content. I did briefly try the Dr Browns but thought they were rubbish and a hassle to clean. Some people swear by them.

Softlysoftly · 19/12/2012 13:52

Parents and sane ffs

ICBINEG · 19/12/2012 13:54

wheresmycaffeine you do not need to know why something happens to be able to demonstrate that something improves it. That is not the problem here. The problem here is that there poor attempt at a trial doesn't even include any babies that cried for longer than an hour a day and so can have nothing at all to say about the ability of bottles to reduce colic. Well that and the fact they don't have the correct registration and presumably won't get it ont he basis of the evidence they currently hold....

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LadyBeagleBaublesandBells · 19/12/2012 13:55

Why are you a 'little chuffed' though Op?

ICBINEG · 19/12/2012 13:55

softly there are several free treatments that show a lot of improvement for colic. it is therefore massively unreasonable to sell snake oil solutions to the problem to make money.

The "placebos do no harm" argument is only really true if there are no actual treatments available.

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ICBINEG · 19/12/2012 13:56

Always chuffed to see false claims of efficacy getting taken down. I am a scientist!

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 19/12/2012 13:58

Perhaps that is because an actual lengthy test would be torturous. No one would wanna do that just to sell a bottle. Whether or not it does help, a valve is a good idea in order to prevent tears collapsing on themselves and taking in extra air. Ro people will veer towards a valves bottle regardless.

ICBINEG · 19/12/2012 14:00

sure thing! stick in a valve...if nothing else it stops the teat getting inverted. Just don't claim things you can't support...simple really.

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 19/12/2012 14:05

Ultimately the decision is made by the baby. Every single bottle claims something. Not just tommy tipee.

ICBINEG · 19/12/2012 14:06

not all babies are fussy....mine would drink from anything as far as I could tell. But yes most babies make their own choices :)

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 19/12/2012 14:09

To be honest I never pay attention to crappy claims. A bottle could claim to fly me to the moon I wouldn't believe it til
I saw it and I wouldn't care as long as my baby was happy. TT didn't work for me bit it does fit for others. Baby gets fed so that's all that matters to me. :)

thatiswhy · 20/12/2012 05:02

It is not the valve, but the teat/nipple that is called "closer to nature" - due to its unique large round shape and suppleness. Where the special valve comes in is that without it such a teat/nipple would collapse!

(Always verify that the slit at the tip of the valve is not stuck, and can open)

ICBINEG · 21/12/2012 10:45

I thought closer to nature was the whole brand slogan....

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AreYouADurtBirdOrALadyBird · 21/12/2012 13:58

After breastfeeding 3 kids my breasts are far from round and supple thatiswhy Grin

atacareercrossroads · 21/12/2012 14:11

YABU, these and Dr Browns saved my sanity with DS1, they most definitely did help with colic, so their claim was spot on in my case.

Bit of a daft ruling, and certainly not one to be 'chuffed about' IMO, plenty of products claim to do things that dont always work, certain painkillers most definitely do not "get rid of [my] pain fast", Senokot doesn't shift my clogged up arse "gently" or whatever it claims etc.

TheCortanaThatStoleChristmas · 21/12/2012 15:30

YANBU.

It's awful to flog things to parents who may be experiencing a tough time with the promise of improvement. Each baby is different and yes sometimes changing the bottle may help, but to imply or even claim that one particular bottle will make the nightmare that is colic fade into a bad memory is awful.

New parents have enough misguided advice and information chucked their way without advertising like this.

Pontouf · 21/12/2012 15:51

I know that anecdotes don't make data but the "anti-colic" bottles made my son less windy than the ones without the "anti-colic" valve. I am absolutely 100% certain of that. I have no idea whether they work for any other child but they did for my son and when he had previously been crying for up to 8 hours per day I thank TT from the bottom of my heart! I don't see why if it works for some people it can't be advertised. I wouldn't have tried them if they hadn't been advertised as anti-colic and they worked for me. Almost nothing works for everyone.

EdgarAllanPond · 21/12/2012 16:00

this is part of a wider ruling on unproven health claims made by products

their product will still sell, just without a made-up claim on it.