To think they should reconsider the DJ's job since the nurse commited suicide?

[MightTinge]

For some strange reason I felt cross when I read of her suicide. Was she in the wrong place at the wrong time? Should the DJ be punished or is it simple a
'Stunt gone wrong'?
After all look what happened with sachsgate. This was much worse IMO before her suicide.
I feel very sad for her children.

here

[PuffPants]

The buck shouldn't stop with the presenters. They are part of a team. Producers, directors, editors and, apparently, lawyers.

The DJs are just the the talking monkeys, not the decision-makers.

Plenty with blood on their hands here.

[carabos]

For those of you, especially you Allsnowballs who think that terminology is just fucking about with semantics can I suggest you take a look at The Samaritans guidelines on reporting suicides (UK guidelines 2008) which state quite clearly that the use of the term "committed suicide" is to be avoided.

[PuffPants]

If I didn't already feel sorry for Kate, I do now. She's bound to feel in some way responsible. Of course she's not, but she strikes me as the sort of girl who will take it to heart...

Dreadful all round.

[SantaIAmSoFuckingRock]

"There's an awful lot of shit being said on this thread - shame on you all."

no shame here thanks.

[DoingItOntheRoofTopWithSanta]

puds

its awful, they let a mother hook her daughter up to a lie detector test and ask about her personal life.

2Day FM has a history of shock jock prank calls at the expense of the disabled and disadvantaged. The Australian Communications and Media Authority imposed a licence condition for five years ordering 2Day FM to provide increased protection for children after a 14-year-old was strapped to a lie detector test in 2009 and pressured to discuss her sex life on air.

Despite the girl's protests that she was "scared" and believed the questions were not "fair" the "Kyle & Jackie-O" radio show host encouraged both the girl and her mother to discuss whether she was sexually active, to which the girl finally responded: "I've already told you the story of this and don't look at me and smile because it's not funny. Oh, okay. I got raped when I was 12 years old."

To which the host replied: "Right. And is that, is that the only experience you've had?"

The hosts were disgusting but the mother sounds like an evil bitch and all

[DoingItOntheRoofTopWithSanta]

The other DJ (female I think) after said, "right, think we will let you off" and then apologized for what happened to her.

[DoingItOntheRoofTopWithSanta]

In another incident, the radio station said it has raised $AUS 150,000 for a family who believed they were being awarded the money to help care for their disabled child. When they tried to claim the donations, they were instead given the names of those who'd pledged money and were not able to collect more than $50,000, according legal submissions filed with the Australian regulator.

[puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE]

Wow DoingIt that story is sickening! Are they still on the air???

[thebody]

Lets just stop now shall we? Lets not judge individuals.. Or are we so fucking perfect????!!!?!??!!!

[DixieD]

Allsnowballs The use of the term 'committed suicide' is offensive. It implies that the person has committed a crime when this is not the case, and adds to the distress of many families who have suffered the loss of a loved one through suicide. It is a hard enough thing to deal with without people criminalising the victims. Being careful about terminology is one step on the road to destigmatising the whole subject. It is about a lot more than semantics.

[junowiththegladrags]

It's the mother who comes out badly from that story, not the DJ's.

As I've said on t'other thread about this, do people not see the irony in a mass "outrage" towards these two dj's in light of what happened with Jacintha?

[Fabuloo]

It's making me really angry that so many people are calling for these presenters heads on spikes, wtaf?!

They made a prank call pretending to be the queen, hang them for treason!!!

It's far more complex than blaming the radio D.J's, yes they played a silly prank but would you really see their lives destroyed?

[WhereYouLeftIt]

" yes they played a silly prank but would you really see their lives destroyed?"
Probably not. Such a pity that they did not afford the same consideration to those they called. As I have already said, consequences for the nurses would have been inevitable. "Jokes to many feel like bullying to the recipient." puts it rather well I think. I cannot find it in me to feel sympathy for the DJs or anyone at that radio station.

"The use of the term 'committed suicide' is offensive. It implies that the person has committed a crime"
Is crime really the only word associated with commit? I thought I committed myself to my husband when i married him.
For me, the word implies simply that the action it is describing is heartfelt'. And I rather feel that suicide must be very heartfelt.

[MrsBW]

WhereYou Couldn't agree more... I've been here scratching my head for a while trying to figure out how (or rather, to whom), the expression 'committing suicide' is offensive.

I would never have associated the phrase with a crime if someone had said it to me in conversation to me; Despite knowing at one stage it was one.

[carabos]

whereyouleftit the reason why the phrase "committed suicide" has been used is because suicide was a crime. It is no longer a crime and it is important that it is destigmatised.

See The Samaritans media advice (UK guidelines 2008) for an in depth, properly considered and endorsed recommendation about terminology for public discussion of suicide.

[SantaIAmSoFuckingRock]

MrsBW possibly offensive to the family or friends of the deceased? as carabos says. the phrase comes from the fact that suicide used to be a crime and someone who did it had commited the act (as in commiting burglary) also maybe the fact that suicide suggests murder, like the words homicide and genocide.

[SolidGoldFrankensteinandmurgh]

SUfficiently narked by universal stupidity to blog.

[MrsBW]

SantaI as the friend of two people who have taken their own life (is that ok?) I can say I wasn't offended when it was described to me as committing suicide... And neither were their families. As I say, the thought didn't occur to me.

However, I accept everyone is not the same as me so I accept your point.

[SantaIAmSoFuckingRock]

nor I MrsBW ( i have lost friends who have taken their own lives). i wasn't offended when it was referred to as suicide. but i can understand how some (maybe older people who remember when it was a crime?) could be offended.

[WhereYouLeftIt]

Maybe it did once directly associate suicide with crime; but language changes, and words and phrases come to mean very different things with time. When the phrase 'Social Security' was coined, it must have given a warm and fuzzy feeling; not so much after a couple of decades when the sense of security was conspicuous by its absence. Similarly, I think the term 'to commit suicide' has come to mean what it is - a heartfelt action undertaken in despair. I doubt if anyone under 60 could ever associate with illegality. And few over 60.

[DixieD]

Whereyou and MrsBW It may have never occurred to you that the term committed suicide indicates a crime but I can assure you that this is where the phrase comes from and that it is an offensive and distressing expression to many families of people who have died through suicide.
My mother works with adults with learning disabilities. Many of their families take no offence at the term 'handicapped' in fact a lot of them use it themselves. This does not mean that the term is right to use, and my mother never does. Terminology and how we discuss things are important. They are fundamental to society's attitude to things.

[SantaIAmSoFuckingRock]

well i think if the advice being given by a charity who deals with suicide is that it causes offence, then i'd be inclined to think they know what they're talking about and i'll avoid using it.

[MrsBW]

I think sometimes the world would be a simpler place if people stopped getting offended on behalf of others quite so quickly and just concentrated on what offended them personally.

But then, I've drunk a lot of wine tonight and reserve the right to decide in the morning that IABVU and give myself a slap.

[DoingItOnTheRoofTopWithSanta]

junowiththegladrags asking a 14 year old girl to discuss her sexual experience on live radio and then ignoring her telling you that she was raped and asking "Right and is that the only experience you've had?" that doesn't seem bad to you? . The mom sounds appalling, but the djs should have been sacked after that. It's disgusting,