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To not want a minute by minute account of Kate's pregnancy and little sympathy for her.

511 replies

babbas · 03/12/2012 21:15

She's rich, she has all the support in the world and will have no cooking, cleaning, vocational work or responsibilities. I really really really do not want to have daily updates on her condition or her pregnancy for the next nine months! It's so typical of everything she stands for that they have already announced she will have to be on rest for the foreseeable future. As opposed to doing what exactly??!

My best friend had HG and lost a stone in 8 days. She went to hospital and was told to pull her herself together as most women had morning sickness. No time off work, no help whatsoever.

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RooneyMara · 04/12/2012 11:03

Oh yes the ketones thing, I forgot about that.

That's why this pregnancy was better - the first two (first 10 years ago) I had nothing useful to take, and didn't eat and lost loads of weight and think I remember having +++ ketones, when being referred for termination (which I didn't do thankfully)

this time with right meds I could EAT
it made it SO much better

HeyNiki · 04/12/2012 11:21

Wow.

I had to scroll right down past all the nasty fuckers. Glad the last few posts are from more civilised individuals. Seriously, if you don't like it, just don't go there.

VenusRising · 04/12/2012 11:29

Maybe she got food poisoning at her old school!?

I got food poisoning at a pals wedding when I was 7 mos pregnant and I still remember ever last heave. OMFG - it was just terrible.

My cousin was sick all through all three of her pregnancies - she was hospitalised for months and months on end with each one, on a drip. She was scarily thin when her babes were born - and she didn't have much to lose either beforehand - she's still about 7.5 stone (five foot seven).

Hope any woman with HG's feeling much better soon.

ToffeeCaramel · 04/12/2012 11:35

From this article.

"Before intravenous fluid therapy was available, hyperemesis was a major cause of maternal mortality. In fact, therapeutic abortion was introduced in 1813 as a treatment of hyperemesis gravidarum.1 Charlotte Bronte, the famous 19th century author of Jane Eyre, died of hyperemesis in 1855 in her fourth month of pregnancy.2

Vomiting has been reported in 56% of all pregnant women.2 Hyperemesis gravidarum, however, occurs in 3.5 per 1,000 pregnancies"

SantasStrapOn · 04/12/2012 11:40

I had HG in all of my pregnancies. It was hell. I vomited up blood, bits of stomach lining, my eyes had masses of burst blood vessels in them. I was hospitalised for most of the pregnancies, on an IV as I couldn't even keep saliva down. That was on the maximum dose of meds, and I have CKD as a result of it, and a damaged stomach valve.

It's worlds apart from simple morning sickness, I would rather be in labour for 9 months than go through that again.

TessOfTheBaublevilles · 04/12/2012 11:49

I am far from being a royalist, and while I don't want day-by-day reports on her pregnancy, I certainly don't wish Catherine ill.

I watched my best friend suffer with HG during both of her pregnancies and it was horrible. Just like VenusRising described with her cousin, my best friend was in hospital for months on end, and had to be fed and hydrated through a drip.

She ended both pregnancies much, much lighter than she was prior to pregnancy, and after the first one significantly. It was shocking to see her like that. This probably sound over-dramatic to some, but even now when I think about what my best friend went through (and the last time was three years ago), it brings tears to my eyes. It was horrific to see someone I care so much about, suffer in such a way. I wouldn't wish it on my own worst enemy.

My best friend and her husband had always planned on three children, but after suffering with HG twice, she wasn't prepared to risk going through that again (and of course her husband fully supported that).

ToffeeCaramel · 04/12/2012 11:52

Someone on my facebook was saying "It's not an illness, she's just pregnant, i had morning sickness so badly that i had to run out of meetings at work to be sick!" Well you didn't have HG then did you if you were still at work!

Frontpaw · 04/12/2012 12:15

A colleague had this and passed out on the tube a couple of times. She ended up in hospital, so no, it's not just a little ordinary puking! I have been wondering if its because she is very very slim? My colleague was very slender too...

Oblomov · 04/12/2012 12:36

What a nasty thread. Glad the last few posts have been more pleasant.
I didn't even have sickness severe enough to be considered HG, but I was very sick all the way through. Hospitalised. If ANY of you insensitive people really had had HG you would not be making these ridiculous posts.

Frontpaw · 04/12/2012 12:38

I would have thought if it was run of the mill morning sickness, they would keep her at home, say she has a cod and cancel a few appointments, not take her to hospital and announce a pregnancy.

pigsinmud · 04/12/2012 12:41

I feel lucky that I only threw up non-stop for 6 weeks in 2 out of my 4 pregnancies! At least it didn't last for months for me. I also had my lovely mum come and stay to look after my older 2 dc. It was awful. Lost over 1.5 stones.

Someone suggested tinned clementine pieces as they are not too bad when they come back! I used to crawl to the toilet. (Not helpful that they're talking about norovirus on Radio 5!)

Frontpaw · 04/12/2012 12:46

Cold not a cod. Unless it was a dodgy one that made her sick.

LtXmasEve · 04/12/2012 12:50

fairylights unless things have recently changed dramatically in the forces, I don't believe 'any other' officer would get 'compassionate' leave for extreme morning sickness, given that the wife in in good hands in an excellent hospital with immediate family on hand

Leave to be with a wife for a couple of days after a miscarriage used to be seriously frowned on, not sure how it is now. In fact anything to do with pregnancy an childbirth was given very short shrift if it compromised the work of the husband in any way. Pregnant women were treated abysmally, certainly twenty years ago, in the nineties

Yes, things have changed a lot since the 90's, thankfully. The military is much more forward thinking, and able to show a 'human' side in all matters. Prince William is not on, nor warned for, Operations so more allowances can be made. Authorised Absence can be granted by Commanding Officers as and when they feel it is required.

ReindeerBollocks · 04/12/2012 12:55

I'm currently in bed trying not to vomit with horrendous morning sickness. I'm only able to drink flat cola as water is making it worse.

I'm not a royalist but my goodness it sounds like Kate is going through something much worse, and for that I feel truly sorry for her.

I wish her a safe pregnancy and hope that they can use medication to get this undere control for here. Regardless of anyone's opinion on the royal family, why would anyone be pleased that someone is suffering so much in early pregnancy?

Yellowtip · 04/12/2012 13:16

Just as well LtXmasEve So presumably wives in Germany no longer have to travel 90km for ante natal appointments/ delivery, no longer have c-sections suggested as a cheap option for those who tend to deliver fast and miscarriages and complications are treated seriously these days? The prevailing attitude towards these things was scandalous and it's not as though the nineties were the dark ages either.

Reindeer I think it's possible to feel the greatest sympathy with her if she's got hg proper whilst appreciating that she's much luckier than many to have no other DC to care for (esp no cooking) and can afford the best medical care in the world. That practical stuff helps. Those things are entirely separate from people's view of her a a person or the monarchy as an institution. Trouble is that one can't express an opinion on either of the latter without being told it's mean, because Kate has hg. Which is silly.

ReindeerBollocks · 04/12/2012 13:27

I have to admit I said that yesterday to my own mother - imagine being so well looked after. Having spent the past couple of weeks barely managing to look after my two DC and being unable to cook properly for them (DH is doing the cooking as I can't stand the smells).

I don't resent that though - the trade off is the world wide press outside the hospital. And I don't know if it is true HG or not, but morning sickness is bad enough, and if HG is worse then god help her.

(apologies for the terrible typo's in my post)

elizaregina · 04/12/2012 13:29

babblas -

its good she has brought this into the public domain by default - maybe people will be alot more sympathetic to all other ladies who get this condition now.

SantasStrapOn · 04/12/2012 13:31

Only if the idiot press stop reporting it as severe morning sickness.

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agedknees · 04/12/2012 13:41

As a midwife, I nursed plenty of women with HG. I would not wish the condition on my worst enemy.

YABU. And nasty.

Frontpaw · 04/12/2012 13:43

Maybe the op would be happier of she got the same treatment as her friend? Of course she wouldn't. It was just a badly worded post I think. No one would be unsympathetic towards another mum to be puking herself inside out (unless she'd been necking alcopops, which I assume Kate hasn't).

Bella88 · 04/12/2012 13:49

I'm with you OP. Take no notice of the brainwashed masses who berate you for daring to have an opinion that deviates from syrup we're being spoonfed.

EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin · 04/12/2012 13:52

How is it brainwashed?

It's just having empathy for someone. Someone that is in the public eye who seems like a nice person having her first baby and who has HG.

Some of you are beyond weird.

PickledInAPearTree · 04/12/2012 15:00

Some charmers around here.

somuchslimmernow · 04/12/2012 15:00

well the thread title is quite clear - little sympathy for her. So dont think the excuse of badly worded quite stands up.