To fricken hate people who sell tickets at ridiculous prices!

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Dd is obsessed with one direction, only thing she wants for Xmas is a ticket to see them next year. Of course by the time I realised they were on tour all the tickets had gone.

The prices on eBay are unreal!

How can they get away with it, 3x tickets worth £33 each have just went for £450!!!

Dd is being great about it but i wonder if she really is expecting a surprise ticket in her stocking and it breaks my heart I can't get her it.

Pimping, - forcing women into having degrading sex, abducting them across borders under false pretences, encouraging drug and alcohol addiction, child abuse, selling underage boys and girls to anyone with a few pounds in their pocket, encouraging rape and sexual assault, emotional and physical violence, to name just a few of the side effects of the sex trade.

Ticket touting - making money on tickets from willing participants.

I find comparing the 2 highly offensive.

Defending it, I do no see the difference between corporate hospitality - ie the Welsh Rugby Union charging £500 for a ticket because it includes a £10 meal, and someone doing it by actually going to the hassle of buying tickets, its like any business they win some, they lose some.

I also do not see why Joe Bloggs the public is any worse for trying to make some money, than Mick Jagger the multi millionaire is.

link re Rolling Stones here is an example of extortionate ticket prices and ticket touts taking a hit. As far as I am concerned they are all as bad as each other, the band and the touts, chances are the gigs would never have sold out at those prices, the band themselves (well their agents) were selling "hospitality" tickets at over £1000.

Music is a huge money making industry, I know how hard it is to get gig tickets, my teens only pleasure in life is the odd concert, but thats mine and theirs problems, I have never failed to get a ticket to a gig they want to go to, if I have been up and on the right website, at the time the tickets go on sale, but it takes hard work and perseverance, setting alarms.

I disapprove of organisations such as Viagogo, buying up tickets, but they are hand in pocket with the bands and their agents anyway. They are officially sanctioned ticket touts.

If it was that easy to get all these "hard to obtain" tickets, then there would nothing for people to moan about would there.

Alright then, leeching.

"I also do not see why Joe Bloggs the public is any worse for trying to make some money, than Mick Jagger the multi millionaire is."

Well, because Mick Jagger wrote the songs and gets his show on the road and performs them, perhaps?

But Mick Jagger has made his money a thousand times over, he doesn't need it, he is just being greedy, he could play for free/give every single penny he makes from now on and not notice.

That is a non-argument.

no more than yours is, or alternatively, the bands could play for say £20 a ticket (plucks a random figure out of thin air), enforce the "show your credit card rule" (which would cost them in admin, and show they actually give one about their fans, which they don't, everyone involved is in it for the money.

"I'd rather the band had the money than some lazy tosspot sat at the computer" ... couldn't put it better myself. Quite.

And using the Rolling Stones is a piss poor example. There are VERY few bands in the same financial situation as the Stones. They are not representative of the industry as a whole by any means. Quite the opposite. Most bands can only get an income from touring now and unlike the Stones don't have the same money to invest themselves; they have a lot more people taking a larger cut out of the profits than the Stones. There are VERY few bands who could sell out an entire venue with a ticket price structure like the Stones; the demand might be high but not THAT high (and even the Stones only manage it because they are doing a tiny number of dates on this occasion).

Its not Band that are the issue. Its management, record companies and promoters. Bands actually have far less power than you might think and contracts have terms they have no choice but to adhere to. You have to put things in the context of touring being the only real way to make money in the music industry these days. There is very little to be made from record sales and royalties. Bands will often flog themselves for weeks on tour without a break and spend an extraordinary amount of time signing things for fans that most people don't appreciate. To say they don't care about the fans is bollocks in most cases.

Its a total non-argument to say its perfectly legitimate to make money off the back of Mick Jagger's talent because he's got a lot of it (money).

How does anyone justify charging £10 to "deliver" an E-Ticket, or £3.50 per TICKET, booking fee, on the same booking, or £45 for a t-shirt (as I understand it a lot of the money made on tour comes from merchandising which is largely controlled by the band/their management).

It is not the easy money everyone thinks, I made £450 this summer, on 2 tickets and a camper van pass. I wouldn't deliberately have set out to make that money, the by product was nice, the reason for having to sell the tickets in the first place wasn't.

Would I try to do it again - absolutely not, why I think, is it because I wouldn't love to - not at all. Its because I wouldn't want to take the risk of shelling out almost £400 on the off chance I would make money again.

Tickets tours regularly get burned, so often where I live that DH and I had a policy of not buying gig tickets to venues in our local area, because it was so easy to pick them up at less than face value close to the start of the concert.

Reading tickets this year flopped for touts, I have been to the V Festival for half price, Red Hot Chilli Peppers for £25, Elton John, £20, Snow Patrol £10, Stereophonics £15, and thats off the top of my head, there are plenty more I have been to for a lot less than face value.

It is annoying, but so are ticket prices in general, Ive been looking at Bon Jovi tickets, "official" web site shows this
Ticket type Ticket cost (face value)? Quantity Seat location
DIAMOND CIRCLE £140.63 (£125.00) Sold out
GOLDEN CIRCLE £112.50 (£100.00)
SEATS £95.63 (£85.00) Sold out
STANDING £73.13 (£65.00)
SEATS £50.63 (£45.00)
SEATS £28.13 (£25.00)
SEATS £15.00 (£12.50) Sold out
DIAMOND CIRCLE VIP - (Box Office Collection) £295.00 (£295.00)
This package includes Diamond Circle Ticket, Laminate and Lanyard, European Merchandise pack,VIP preshow party, food, wine, beer, Preferred Entry, VIP Entrance, Host, Bathrooms, Cash Bar, Merchandise stand (where available)

£14 in booking fees, per ticket, £12.50 booking fee, per ticket, etc, etc, how is this any better than touting? I don't approve of touting, I don't like touting, but I don't see how it is any worse than any of the other practices that surround the music industry or making money in general tbh, unless you work for a public sector organisation/charity or other not for profit organisation, (which I deliberately do) then the aim of your employer is to make money, in one way or another.

And just as a test, I have tried to get the £25 ticket, there is another £2.31 transaction fee, I have no doubt if I carried on going there would be a credit card fee.

The only gig I have been too, where ticket(s) and prices are controlled and are kept artificially low is the Alarm Gathering, which is all about the fans.

There is epetition to stop individuals benefiting from ticket resale. I am sure at one point you all will come across it. I think it should be made illegal to resale tickets at double price.
I would appreciate if you sign it as well, if you do agree with it.
epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47255

Thank you so much!